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Offline Tabasco

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« Reply #30 on: February 06, 2006, 04:19:10 PM »
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And how like you were able to bomb and destroy a base while in duel mode without worry of opposition?  Yeah, bring AW duel mode to AH! lmao.



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I wasn't aware of that problem.

Can bases be bombed and destroyed in the DA?

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« Reply #31 on: February 06, 2006, 06:20:38 PM »
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MOTD will fix nothing, rules are only followed if enforced and htc wont ban people for doing such things in da.

On top of it he shouldnt really act on films send in to him complaining about guy xy. You never know what happend before or after the film.

So basically when he puts up a motd stating the rules people will either misread them and find holes, not read them at all or deliberately disobey them. Next step is you want someone with rights to enforce em.


Schutt -
Gotta say I respect you're opinion, but I think you're wrong.  i refer you to the thought, (paraphrased)  "it takes good men to do nothing, for evil to succeed."  Just because an MOTD won't solve the problem completely, doesn't mean we shouldn't try.  Even if it stops only one newb from screwing up the DA, its a help.  I can tell ya from experience that if I could have had the MOTD to back up my comments to some newbs they would have stopped sooner than they did.  And, it would make me feel better about vulching their butts when they broke the rules.
And finally, I wouldn't have to type out the rules so darn much.  lol  I could just point 'em to the MOTD.
Finally, I have no problem if they do send enforcers for the DA, but I do need the vulching practise.
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« Reply #32 on: February 06, 2006, 06:46:42 PM »
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Schutt -
Gotta say I respect you're opinion, but I think you're wrong.  i refer you to the thought, (paraphrased)  "it takes good men to do nothing, for evil to succeed."  Just because an MOTD won't solve the problem completely, doesn't mean we shouldn't try.  Even if it stops only one newb from screwing up the DA, its a help.  I can tell ya from experience that if I could have had the MOTD to back up my comments to some newbs they would have stopped sooner than they did.  And, it would make me feel better about vulching their butts when they broke the rules.
And finally, I wouldn't have to type out the rules so darn much.  lol  I could just point 'em to the MOTD.
Finally, I have no problem if they do send enforcers for the DA, but I do need the vulching practise.


Nope. He's right :). If you don't believe him drop into the TA and watch the pinheads egg A1 all the time. They usually get three warns then booted but come back to try again only to get booted again, ad nasuem...BTW, us folks in the TA do apologize to ya'll in the DA. It seems when they get the boot for being bad kiddies and get suspended where do ya think they head?
Answer A - outside to play?
Answer B - hmmmmmm, where else can I go make trouble....you guessed it!!! DING DING DING!

The rules pop up when you enter the TA arena on the MOTD. When was the last time any one of you actually read :O them to see if anything's changed? And you expect some new guy to actually read them when all he wants to do is jump in a plane and see if he can take off!?

But! And think about this...imagine you had nothing to do but pop open another beer and read this thread...it's very entertaining . Right? :aok

Since you really have never seen any response to the concerns you should feel free to vulch the heck outa the kiddies and pin em to the field. Peer pressure means nothing to a kiddie but not being able to take off for an hour may actually stop them for a little bit. By the same token, a lot of these kids were brought up in Tomb Raider Game era so they fully understand they may have to try over and over again, for at least a million times before they get up. But for them, that's ok. It's much more fun for them to have you shooting at them over and over than to have to go out and play with thier friends....:lol
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« Reply #33 on: February 06, 2006, 07:11:35 PM »
I think Ren nailed it pretty good. I know when I go to the TA I don't bother to read the MOTD. And I also really doubt it would help much. The only thing I think that would really help resolve the problem would be to add moderators in there with the same privilages the trainers have in the TA. Outside of that, I can't really see anything helping too much.
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« Reply #34 on: February 06, 2006, 08:20:14 PM »
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Gotta say I respect you're opinion, but I think you're wrong.  i refer you to the thought, (paraphrased)  "it takes good men to do nothing, for evil to succeed."  ...snip....
Finally, I have no problem if they do send enforcers for the DA, but I do need the vulching practise.


I gotta agree with Ren, though, that MOTD isnt gunna change 'em.

BUT -- I think there is something we can do about it.

If you think of the MA as being policed by moderators with the power of old west Marshalls, think of the DA as being run by frontier justice. The "good men" who need to act -- the vets who know the score -- just need to drop their duels for 5-10 minutes and concentrate on dweeb suppression. The times Ive ahd to do it, the dweebs disappear within 5-10 minutes.

BTW, you can cut down on angry vets if you vulch at far end of the runway instead of the spawn. Couple times guys have joined the DA without knowing dweeb suppression is underway --  upped right on top of the dweeb, gotten accidentally vuched, adn gone ballistic. Plus, there's a certain sick pleasure it letting the dorks think thy're gunna make it off the runway this time...

and ,aybe giving them a little longer between spawn clicks cuts down on the adrenaline persistant behavior.
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« Reply #35 on: February 06, 2006, 08:34:18 PM »
Only been to the DA once, about a week ago.

Didn't know what it was for.  Didn't see any rules.  Didn't have a clue what the rules were.  Looked around at the tower -- didn't see what the point was (everyone looked to be on the same team).  So, didn't even try to up.  Didn't want to screw up someone elses fun.

Also admittedly didn't bother to search out any rules, and didn't ask -- didn't want to be flamed for being such a "tard".

Seems one small do could have eliminated a lot of didn'ts.

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« Reply #36 on: February 06, 2006, 08:48:28 PM »
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Only been to the DA once, about a week ago.

Didn't know what it was for.  Didn't see any rules.  Didn't have a clue what the rules were.  Looked around at the tower -- didn't see what the point was (everyone looked to be on the same team).  So, didn't even try to up.  Didn't want to screw up someone elses fun.

Also admittedly didn't bother to search out any rules, and didn't ask -- didn't want to be flamed for being such a "tard".

Seems one small do could have eliminated a lot of didn'ts.

Thanks Raven.  Now I DO know.


E25, DA is for practicing dogfighting and even SA. There aren't teams in there unless stated. Green can shoot down green. Basically the only thing most ask is for a chk 6 and then wait for a return chk 6 before engaging. It can really help you get an understanding of ACMs.
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« Reply #37 on: February 06, 2006, 10:38:49 PM »
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I wasn't aware of that problem.

Can bases be bombed and destroyed in the DA?



think base destruction disabled in DA.  In AW though there was a bug that allowed players in duel mode to still attack bases.  



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« Reply #38 on: February 07, 2006, 12:26:59 AM »
Ok, I've been staring at the way you typed "DA" in the thread title for over a week now, and I can't hold back saying it any longer...

DAAAAA rules!

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