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Offline Blixen

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« on: February 12, 2006, 03:34:31 PM »
is this barebones pc worth 115.00 dollars and is it anygood?
i have a gf 6800ultra audigy2 and basic hd and 1 gig ddr to put in it with a 500 watt power supply my current system is a amd 2600 athalon with boistar board
i want to upgrade but funds are tight as most of u know
here are the specs

CPU AMD Sempron/Athlon 64 (64 bit) up to 3700+
Socket 754
800 MHz  
Chipset North Bridge: SIS 760GX
South Bridge: SIS 965L  
Memory PC2100/PC 2700/PC 3200
2 x DDR400 DIMM
Up to 2GB  
Expansion Slots 2 x PCI
1 x AGP 8X
1 x PCI-e  
Graphics SiS 760GX Mirage2 Graphics Integrated  
IDE 2 x UltraDMA 133/100/66  
S-ATA 2 x SATA  
LAN 10/100 Mbps  
Audio ADI AD1888
6 Channel Codec  
Dimension (mm) W x H x D 170 x 385 x 355  
Drive Bays 2 x 5.25"
5 x 3.5" (2 external)  
Front Panel 2 x USB 2.0
1 x Microphone
1 x Headphone  
Rear Panel 4 x USB 2.0
1 x Line-in/Line-out/Mic-in
1 x PS/2 Keyboard
1 x PS/2 Mouse
1 x Parallel Port
1 x Serial Port
1 x D-sub (VGA Out)
1 x RJ45 LAN  
Power Supply 250 W (PFC)  
O/S Support Window 2000/XP  
Key Features Harmonic Affordability
Solid, Dependable Performance
Stylish and Friendly Design
Thoughtful Expandability
Uncomplicated Functionality
Upgrade Flexibility

Offline wetrat

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« Reply #1 on: February 12, 2006, 03:37:45 PM »
you'll need a new processor
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« Reply #2 on: February 12, 2006, 04:45:29 PM »
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you'll need a new processor


Its a BareBone kit, It Includes the Processor. Most Barebones include: Processor, 512mb Memory, Powersupply. Also depends where you buy from. Personally i buy from Tigerdirect.com

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« Reply #3 on: February 12, 2006, 04:46:53 PM »
Here is one for $119.00 from TigerDirect, Case looks more pimp to. Better buy in my Opinion.

http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=1784276&Sku=B450-2024%20A

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« Reply #4 on: February 12, 2006, 04:53:27 PM »
I'd say it depends on whether or not you need the new case.  

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16813128307

Gigabyte socket 939 Motherboard=$58.00

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16819103537

Athlon 64 3000+=$160.00

Total = $218.00


Using your deal on your barebones, and adding the cheapest processor I know will work .............


http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16819103485

Athlon 64 2800+=$113.00

Your barebones deal =$115.00

Total=$228.00

My deal you reuse everything but the motherboard and processor, get a motherboard that you can upgrade the processor on later, gives you dual channel memory support, etc.  The only "legacy" type product you'd be staying with is your AGP video card.  It will probably be good for a couple years yet, and you can get at least 1 CPU upgrade out of that 939 motherboard.  Maybe even a video card upgrade with the 7 series cards out now in AGP.  

Your deal you get a motherboard that has been relegated to budget office computers, has almost no new Athlon processors being built for it (they are going over to Semprons for the 754, and I cant guarantee your motherboard will support the Semprons), doesnt have dual channel memory support, and costs you 10 bucks more.  The only new part you get is a case.  Oh, and you dont have to go to the trouble to swap out the motherboards.

Dont get me wrong.  I built a 754.  I'm staying with it for awhile.  I already have the processor though.  Economically, it made sense for me.  I dont htink it does for you.

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« Reply #5 on: February 12, 2006, 04:54:44 PM »
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Its a BareBone kit, It Includes the Processor. Most Barebones include: Processor, 512mb Memory, Powersupply. Also depends where you buy from. Personally i buy from Tigerdirect.com


Barebones kits dont have CPUs.  Bundles have CPUs.

Show me in the description where it says what CPU type it is?

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« Reply #6 on: February 12, 2006, 05:02:17 PM »
2 reasons I dont shop at Tigerdirect anymore.  They used to get all my business.  Now I shop at Newegg and Computergeeks.com.

1.  All Tigerdirect's "sales" are mail in rebates.  They used to offer direct discounts but caved in to manufacturers and started doing mail in only rebates.  More hassle.  Especially if you have to RMA something.  It was a minor thing, except for #2.

2.  RMA policy.  Tiger is a major pain to deal with if you have a problem.  Their products all have between 7 and 14 days, depending on the product, to determine if you need to RMA.  Fine, thats not so bad.  The problem is they use what seems to be a totally arbitrary way of determining WHEN your package arrived.  Unless you use some form of delivery that requires confirmation, they can use an estimated date of delivery and use that to begin your RMA window.  And they do.  I've gotten burned more than once by their return policies.  Even worse, if you fill out and mail the info for your rebate, and then have to RMA it, you have to pay back the rebate on top of everything else.  Plus pay the shipping to send the parts back.  Sometimes they can refuse the RMA if you had a mail in rebate, because they want you to include the coupon with the return.

I dont need more headaches in my life.  No offense if you enjoy Tiger, they have some good products no one else has.  I'll shop elsewhere.

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« Reply #7 on: February 12, 2006, 05:28:09 PM »
I've had good luck dealing with Newegg, too.  RMA has been no problem with them, and their prices are quite good.