Thing is guys whenever the "Allies" have that many pilots, well that's how the real allies flew. They gave the Lw overwhleming odds to contend with and bled them dry.
Just got done reading the Heinz Knoke book, where the guy was wounded 6 times and norrowly escaped several times being killed by Allied fighters.
Most of his wingmen died, he was burnt shot at his chute dislocated shoulders shattered pelvis,etc. Just because not only was a thunderbolt on his crate but lightnings and Mustangs . Contrair to what some have said that even when the LW had even odds they lost. Cus most of the times they were just overwhelmed
Another thing the LW had many Zerstoerers going around to destroy the bombers while lighter and better performing 109s engaged and distracted the fighters while the Fws ,110s and 210s did their work.
IHMO 74 to 22 gives realistic odds as to what the LW was facing. Whenever the Allied side masses a big formation of fighters and bombers . I always climb above the formation at least 5k and at least being co alt with the escort fighters, so by the time they're over France I have enough altitude and time to set up a Head on pass screaming in a 500mph. As soon as I am in I aim directly for the cockpit as if the pilot is hit with 4 20s or 2 30s in its soft nose it will mean probably that you will kill the lead buff in that formation and probably the AI buff next to that one. You may not get the kill in the short time, but you put another buff out of action.
Another thing if you guys go in one by one you'll get picked off by the escorts easily,that's a fact, however if you come in as a group of Fw190s and 109s you may have a much, much better chance of surviving, even shooting down several allied escorts. As in the real war the LW couldn't hope to shoot down every single bomber they saw but they hoped to cause enough casualties so that the bomber offensive would stop. It happened for a couple of weeks at the end of 43 when the Bombers were being sent without long range escort.
It's the same as always yesterday I was in and the Allies came in singles or pairs even though they had an inmense numerical superiority over the LW and they died ending up many times ganged and brought to the deck where even more LW fighters pounced.
It wasn't until later on where they amassed their whole fighters into one formation that they could take control. I had to climb to 30k and even then I saw a couple higher. I just did one pass and went home and landed, cus I'm not going to give someone a kill while being ganged
Think I landed 3 kills that sortie, it was sad to see that our guys just kept upping from front line fields instead of taking off a bit on the rear and get enough altitude to at least give them a fighting chance.