Author Topic: Setup for Sunday Feb. 19th - Karelia RPS (Read 3465 times)

storch · « **Reply #60 on:** February 21, 2006, 08:21:36 AM »

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Originally posted by Shifty
Maybe if you stayed out of the Allied Ack they wouldn't be able to get you.

I'd love to but the ultra uber super fast that can't be caught be either the 110C or the 109E woobiecaneII ultra uber best fighter ever that should still be front line operational ultra uber uber uber hurricane drivers some how mananged to lose the turn fight and run for the ack which they never seem to far from anyways. did I mention that the hurricaneIIc is the uberest ever? if not I'll do so in a future post.

Oleg · « **Reply #61 on:** February 21, 2006, 08:21:40 AM »

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Originally posted by BlauK
Oleg, it is pretty much up to yourself how much challenge you feel is right for you. Keep on flying the best possible plane if that is what makes you tick.

Like i said:

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Some guys would like to "fight" in FM against p-40b for sure

Fly in 41 year plane against 44 year plane dont looks like fun for me.

storch · « **Reply #62 on:** February 21, 2006, 08:24:52 AM »

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Originally posted by BlauK
The FM last night were heavy and concentrating in the ground targets and base capture. One could have got several kills just as well with P-40 as with hizookahurricane. Now teh hurricanes kept on landing 5 - 8 kill sorties while allies outnumbered the axis...

Usually the attacker is supposed to have the better odds to be able to advance the front.

Oleg, it is pretty much up to yourself how much challenge you feel is right for you. Keep on flying the best possible plane if that is what makes you tick.

that was pretty much it, the allied players were in gangbang frenzy and contrary to popular belief the hurriIIc is evey bit as fast as the 110 or 109E and retains E exceptionally well. it really should be the current front line NATO fighter it's that good.

Shifty · « **Reply #63 on:** February 21, 2006, 09:13:08 AM »

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Originally posted by BlauK

Usually the attacker is supposed to have the better odds to be able to advance the front.

I wasn't on last night so I missed all the fun. Funny you guys don't care at all about any of this when your the ones winning. You just talk about how unskilled the Allies are, or how they stay in the ack, or how superior your flying skills are.

I gotta ask.......... Does this quote of yours mean the Allies are supposed to let you win?

Some of you guys beat everything. You got your own map. 90% of the setups always have 109s, 110s, and 190s. YOUR RIDES. Yet you always find something to complain about. I'd love it if the P-47, and P-51 were available half as much.

Bronk · « **Reply #64 on:** February 21, 2006, 09:16:28 AM »

Hmmmm I I tried out the AvA last night as axis. If all the allies wanted to up MkII hurries I upped a MkI . I landed a fews kill and had a bunch I couldnt due to pickers no big deal though all in fun. The MkI is more nimble than the MkII . Most players will readily try to turn fight and you can get on there 6 in about 3 turns.

The only thing that was pissing me off was the PT that kept driving up to shore and picking people off in low speed fights. Also because of having to turn down graphics all i could see was his shadow untill it was to late to avoid the fun killer.

Bronk

Toad · « **Reply #65 on:** February 21, 2006, 10:03:22 AM »

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Originally posted by storch
that was pretty much it, the allied players were in gangbang frenzy and contrary to popular belief the hurriIIc is evey bit as fast as the 110 or 109E and retains E exceptionally well. it really should be the current front line NATO fighter it's that good.

Don't let the facts get in the way of a good Gewuztraminer or Moselle.

Shifty · « **Reply #66 on:** February 21, 2006, 11:02:04 AM »

Tonight is the 78ths Squadnight. We'll be flying Axis. Maybe that will help a bit if the numbers have been skewed.

BlauK · « **Reply #67 on:** February 21, 2006, 12:21:52 PM »

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Originally posted by Shifty
I gotta ask.......... Does this quote of yours mean the Allies are supposed to let you win?

It was mainly a response to the whines about FM-2 being an über plane while scoring multiple kill sorties against it at the same time. FM-2 will still be there and also used by many in 1944!!! That is when the allies are attacking and are supposed to have the upper hand.

AFAIK, this AvA RPS is in some way trying to recreate the historical events and balances.

I think people on both sides are supposed to open their eyes and allow the changes of balance during different years of the RPS. Is that not the whole idea of the RPS???

About the other assumptions. I dont think they are worth answering... provided they were directed at me.

storch · « **Reply #68 on:** February 21, 2006, 12:26:25 PM »

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Originally posted by Toad
Don't let the facts get in the way of a good Gewuztraminer or Moselle.

toad, the hurriIIc can out run the 109E on the deck and the 110 can barely catch it with even minimal retained E. come and see for yourself. spend one night in the axis rides then report how much I'm off please.

Shifty · « **Reply #69 on:** February 21, 2006, 12:55:45 PM »

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Originally posted by BlauK
It was mainly a response to the whines about FM-2 being an über plane while scoring multiple kill sorties against it at the same time. FM-2 will still be there and also used by many in 1944!!! That is when the allies are attacking and are supposed to have the upper hand.

AFAIK, this AvA RPS is in some way trying to recreate the historical events and balances.

I think people on both sides are supposed to open their eyes and allow the changes of balance during different years of the RPS. Is that not the whole idea of the RPS???

About the other assumptions. I dont think they are worth answering... provided they were directed at me.

The questions I raised about the FM2 subbing for the Buffalo have nothing to do with your statement that the attacker is supposed to have better odds, and advance the battlefront. Thats a problem fairley common in this arena in the past. Theres been many setups where the historical victor got his rear kicked. Many times in PTO setups. Recently the BOB portion of the last setup was a runaway Axis victory. You may have to advance the front by adjusting the map if thats what your looking for. Just like the last map , if you were going to wait for D-Day , and the advance of the Allies across Europe......... I don't think it was going to happen. Plus if it had happened how much complaining would you have seen on this forum about the hoarding, and gangbanging.

There are a lot more reasons for the victorys and defeats of history. It wasn't just decided by airplanes for one thing, and it was never decided by a bunch of computer geeks who could die, and jump right back up to fight again.

If you say the FM2 is a realistic sub for the Finnish version of the Buffalo , I have to accept it. It's not like I have a say so.

What you call my other assumptions,, are observations. The truth is the Luftwaffe setups are far more numerous, I suppose if you like RAF planes it's probably not as noticeable. If your waiting to fly USAAF planes............. Your SOL. So it's not an assumption that there are LW planes available constantly. Just like all the insults and complaints , they are not assumed. They are right here in this forum. All you have to do is look in any thread, and observe them.

Toad · « **Reply #70 on:** February 21, 2006, 01:03:25 PM »

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Originally posted by storch
toad, the hurriIIc can out run the 109E on the deck and the 110 can barely catch it with even minimal retained E.

So you're saying HTC's published charts are wrong?

Look at the graph again. Hurri shows ~275 max on the deck in WEP.

Both the 109 and the 110 are ~285 at mil and 109 ~ 295, 110 ~300 in WEP.

How does a Hurri in WEP outrun a 109 when the 109 is 10 mph faster in Mil and nearly 20 mph faster in WEP?

How does a Hurri in WEP outrun a 110 when the 110 is ~15 faster mph in Mil and 25 mph faster in WEP?

Or are you saying HTC porked their own charts as part of the anti-LW conspiracy?

Toad · « **Reply #71 on:** February 21, 2006, 01:05:09 PM »

BTW, I might get in there tonight if I have some free time. The current MA map is one of the worst IMO.

How have the numbers been in the AvA? Good as BoB?

Which side has the FM2? That's where I'll be.

BlauK · « **Reply #72 on:** February 21, 2006, 01:07:32 PM »

Shifty,
I was not referring to that subbing discussion. I was referring to Hurri vs FM-2 whines.

With assumptions I meant:
- "You just talk about how unskilled the Allies are, or how they stay in the ack, or how superior your flying skills are."
- "Some of you guys beat everything. You got your own map. 90% of the setups always have 109s, 110s, and 190s. YOUR RIDES. Yet you always find something to complain about."

715 · « **Reply #73 on:** February 21, 2006, 01:19:01 PM »

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Originally posted by Toad
Don't let the facts get in the way of a good Gewuztraminer or Moselle.

Wow.. didn't know the Hurri IIC was so slow on the deck. That's why that 110 I shot down was able to reup and overtake my Hurri IIc despite my 4 mile head start.

Shifty · « **Reply #74 on:** February 21, 2006, 01:28:26 PM »

Yeah Blauk thats what I meant too. Whats an assumption to you, is an observation to me. I shouldn't have made such a generalized statement I know.

I have no problem with the RPS. I think it's the greatest thing since Hitech learned to COAD.

There are a lot of Axis guys that havent been doing the things I mentioned.
Therefore I should tone down my own rhetoric. Plus the one of the biggest complainers , I happen to like. He just has a knack for pissin me off, and making laugh at the same time.

As for the advancing the front. I think you guys should do it manually if you really want to reflect it. It worked for the last RPS. However if you can take over the territory without adjusting the map. Good on ya.

The 78th will be Axis tonight, maybe we can draw away some of them Hurri pilots so the ground forces can advance.