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Offline Saxman

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« Reply #15 on: February 18, 2006, 11:37:14 AM »
A lot of this has to do with the way people in the MA go about base captures. While Poo's method may be the most efficient, it relies REAL heavily on the capabilities of the capture crew, and how alert the enemy is. It's possible to sneak a base that way on an NOE (surprise attack on the deck so you don't show on radar) but the average capture usually takes a little more work.

You COULD also be seeing guys in support of another capture op, knocking out strats at surrounding bases to keep them from aiding the real target.
Ron White says you can't fix stupid. I beg to differ. Stupid will usually sort itself out, it's just a matter of making sure you're not close enough to become collateral damage.

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« Reply #16 on: February 18, 2006, 12:07:05 PM »
Don't listen to the furball dweebs, and don't listen to the strategy folks. Try everything out for yourself, decide which type of gameplay you like and then have fun doing it. Chances are, you'll fall into the group that does a little of everything.

As for your initial question - as has been stated, the game is "won" when one country is reduced to three airfields.

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« Reply #17 on: February 18, 2006, 12:35:26 PM »
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A lot of the same people who say "just don't drop the fighter hangars" will be the first ones up & posting on 200 about how stupid you were to try & take the field with the hangars up...or will cry because someone got a cap in place before they could get up, or on your own side complaining; "now how are we gonna defend the field when we take it?" When what they really mean is "now I can't vulch the uppers" B.T.W. a CAP is what the guys over the field call it...the guys on the tarmac call it vulching.
Man someone spray some air freshener cause sombody just took a dump.  :D

1) People who want the fighter hangers up, don't want the field captured because they want the enemy to be able to up and fight between the two fields all night.

2) Vulchers are like a disease, useless, skilless and lame.  Most people don't vulch after they finnally learn to do more than fly down a runway and die.  Most of the vets that  vulch are do it cause they can't get a good score fighting.  This is much of the reason score means nothing.

3) A cap is in concert with a base capture.  If it is not you are just a lowly vulcher.  See #2.

4) People who drop the field first are just admitting that they can not get coordinated enough to have the cap, town killers and goons on the base in time and in force to take it.  So to buy their skilless and riskless selves more time they level the field and worry about the town and goon later.

What the #4 people don't realize is that, 9 out of 10 times, destroying the field  is only going to gaurantee an unsuccessful base capture.  Pooface is dead on and all the rest are just people's explanations for having too few countrymen to do the job, too little skill and no guts.

The big problem is that most base capture guys in #4 camp don't want to fight, that is why the first thing they do is eliminate any chance for the enemy to fight back.  It kinda seems counter to why people would play this game.

Personally I am here for the fight and long fought out battles for bases are what I enjoy after I have had my share of furballing.

When the hangers go down I leave that fight all together as most do and then the FH bombers are left there with their rods in their hands and usually get whiped, wondering "A duh, why didn't we get that field?"  I'll tell you why, cause you wasted all your resources on the field instead of what get you the capture, the Town.

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Don't listen to the furball dweebs, and don't listen to the strategy folks. Try everything out for yourself, decide which type of gameplay you like and then have fun doing it.
Funny most of us have been telling him to do both and have fun.
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As for your initial question - as has been stated, the game is "won" when one country is reduced to three airfields.
For me the game is won, when I have been fighting my arse off all night in the same kick arse furball and I log exhuasted and eager to do that again.  Unfortunately if it aint Fester, Oz or Donut it doesn't happen.

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« Reply #18 on: February 18, 2006, 06:06:48 PM »
I just call 'em the way I see 'em.:aok  Mars; you and I see some of it the same way....some of it differently. I think it's childish the way most people act about this game. The way to win the war has been stated & is set in stone...it's that way everytime with no variables. All the rest is just someones opinion on the way someone else should play. Anyone out there want to pay my AHII dues so they can have an underling to boss around
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« Reply #19 on: February 19, 2006, 01:02:48 AM »
And yet another thread gets derailed into a Furballer vs Toolshedder war. :D
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« Reply #20 on: February 19, 2006, 01:12:50 AM »
maybe we should try cross breeding the furballers and toolshedders = furshedders

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« Reply #21 on: February 19, 2006, 03:57:23 AM »
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maybe we should try cross breeding the furballers and toolshedders = furshedders



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« Reply #22 on: February 19, 2006, 03:59:50 AM »
Or toolballers.

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« Reply #23 on: February 19, 2006, 12:15:57 PM »
Haven't you heard that song? "Furballer and Toolshedder DNA just don't splice?"

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« Reply #24 on: February 19, 2006, 12:40:04 PM »
You guys crack me up - "Oh woe is me another Furballer Vs Toolshedder thread."  HAHHAHA  What cracks me up is it's always a shedder that starts this whiney spew.

Until HTC uncouples the ability of shedders to bolucks Up the furballers game you will always have this rift.

This thread was about the game - how you win.  This being a dynamic and multi dimensional game, largely due to the human factor, will invariably have many different views of what winning is.  To narrow it down to just Strategery or shedding is wrong.  

If he asked, how do we win the war, then you would have something.

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« Reply #25 on: February 19, 2006, 01:13:14 PM »
I just think it is funny we getting so many guys flying now

randomguy, sumguy, moneyguy, yourguy, herguy, where are all these neato "whatevernamehere"guys coming from? and all of them are recent like in last month or 2 if even that old.............

just strange is all, and most of these new "guys" aren't even new they got leet skilz..........or close to it anyhows:D or think they do.;)    wannabeguy prob be the next one that pops up on here or in the game......


no offense toward you by any means "Randomguy" just had the thought pop in my head after seeing your username on here........

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« Reply #26 on: February 20, 2006, 06:20:15 AM »
Some more questions....

How can you get alot of perks?

I know if you kill, u get points, but do u get more if u land after killing too?

Also, is it true that the more fuel/weapons u carry, the slower u go ?

there are several versions of some planes, eg Spitfire 1 and spitfire 9, or Bf109a and bf109c etc etc

Is there an advantage to use an "older" spitfire or 109, or is it best to use the latest version.

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« Reply #27 on: February 20, 2006, 06:24:13 AM »
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Originally posted by randomguy
Some more questions....

How can you get alot of perks?

I know if you kill, u get points, but do u get more if u land after killing too?

Also, is it true that the more fuel/weapons u carry, the slower u go ?

there are several versions of some planes, eg Spitfire 1 and spitfire 9, or Bf109a and bf109c etc etc

Is there an advantage to use an "older" spitfire or 109, or is it best to use the latest version.



By shooting down many enemy planes. Preferably shoot low eny planes (LA/Spit) in high eny ones (C202, Hurr1). Read more on perk points here.

Yes, you get more points when landing your kills:
Death Multipliers
Landed...   1.0
Discoed...   0.25
Bailed...   0.5
Ditched...   0.75
Captured...   0.4
Killed...   0.25
Crashed... 0.25


Well, technically internal fuel load (ie the weight it adds) doesnt have an impact on your top speed. But it certainly has an impact on your accelleration, climb rate and turning ability. You "feel" the weight - just try it: up a P47N with full internal fuel, then up the same plane with 25% fuel. Youll notice the difference already on takeoff.
Any external addition (bombs, rockets, DT) will not only add their weight, but also drag. They lower not only above mentioned characteristics, but also your max speed. (I think that even after firing the rockets off, the racks still add a little drag to the plane, which you dont have if you launch without rockets in the first place).

As for use of the "older" or "latest" versions of a plane. They can be considered just different planes, with their own flight characteristics. Comparing for example the 109E4 and the 109K4. The E is a lot nimbler (better turn) but also has the lighter guns, weaker engine, better cockpit visibility. The K4 is the better engine performer, but also more skitterish in handling and a less good turner. Also the K4 has a 30mm cannon. Which one you prefer is to your own taste, flying style, task at hand etc etc.... Late war isnt neccessarily always better. Check out Soda's Page for more detailed info on the different planes.
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« Reply #28 on: February 20, 2006, 06:30:41 AM »
i was thinking shades/troll too TC.

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« Reply #29 on: February 20, 2006, 07:17:55 AM »
thx for the info