i was the person talking about tracers in that "collisions" thread. I was talking about HO's and that if I get in that position I generally won't fire in that position but if someone else trys to face shoot me, I generally just aim straight for the cockpit and shoot until they blow up and fly right through there debris, then I said since I don't use tracers it works well because they can't actually see mee firing, there is a small muzzle flash and if you look close you can see your brass bullet casings falling from the guns, but thats about it, nothing that you would ever notice in a dogfight