Author Topic: Jailed for Expressing an Opinion? (Read 2192 times)

Hangtime · « **Reply #30 on:** February 21, 2006, 12:08:05 AM »

Yeag; shopping for morality on this BBS is kinda like shopping for an american made futon at wallmart...

...you'll get something you can be screwed on, but it won't smell quite right even before you get started.

Thrawn · « **Reply #31 on:** February 21, 2006, 12:36:12 AM »

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Originally posted by eagl
So.... printing and distributing counterfeit money should be OK because it's only theft after it's used to buy something?

Yep.

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Selling explosives to kids should be ok because there's no harm done until the kid blows their hands off? Like the explosive seller should be punished for the bad judgement of the kids and the parents who didn't monitor their kids?

Nope, explosive dude can't sell anything to a kid because kids can't consent to contracts.

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Really Thrawn, you can do better

Nah, Austria can do better. I mean we aren't even talking about concrete materials being exchanged, but ideas. I have no doubt that any holocaust denier will get his bellybutton kicked in a dicussion on the topic, there's just to much evidence that it happened. That is how society is protected by these morons, rational debate not by criminalising speech.

Besides, to paraphrase someone on this board or AGW. Freedom of speech is great because it lets the idiots proclaim themselves as such.

Hangtime · « **Reply #32 on:** February 21, 2006, 02:16:08 AM »

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Freedom of speech is great because it lets the idiots proclaim themselves as such.

life is just a spinchter contest.

Mickey1992 · « **Reply #33 on:** February 21, 2006, 07:43:27 AM »

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Originally posted by Rolex
He was convicted and sentenced in an Austrian court for violating Austrian law in Austria. I feel neither sorry for him, nor feel he was unjustly persecuted.

I agree. He knew what the law was and decided to commit the crime anyway. It's like the foreign drug traffickers in Indonesia that have been sentenced to death. They new the penalty but committed the crime anyway.

Nashwan · « **Reply #34 on:** February 21, 2006, 08:13:48 AM »

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I believe the muslim who murdered the Right Wing dutch activist was sentenced to less time.

Do you mean the Dutch man who murdered the right wing politician Pim Fortuyn? He got 18 years. Or the Dutch Muslim who murdered Theo van Gogh, the documentary maker? He got life without the possibility of parole (a rare sentence in the Netherlands, about 30 handed out in the last 60 years)

lazs2 · « **Reply #35 on:** February 21, 2006, 08:18:59 AM »

words are not explosives. Their are laws on possesing explosives... explosives have no free will.. they can't decide to explode or not or where they will.

It seems that he ran afoul of that countries "hate speech" every government has a "hate speech" and they use it to control their subjects. Free speech is just to dangerous.

lazs

straffo · « **Reply #36 on:** February 21, 2006, 08:28:27 AM »

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Originally posted by lasersailor184
I believe the muslim who murdered the Right Wing dutch activist was sentenced to less time.

well ... he was sentenced to life withour parole * ...

It's a bit more than 3 year

* parole or parol ?

Staga · « **Reply #37 on:** February 21, 2006, 08:59:24 AM »

Why are you ruining a good thread with facts? GO AWAY FROGGIE !

lasersailor184 · « **Reply #38 on:** February 21, 2006, 09:12:16 AM »

I was exhaggerating, but I am absolutely sure the dude recieved no more than 13 years.

straffo · « **Reply #39 on:** February 21, 2006, 09:39:05 AM »

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/4716909.stm

randomguy · « **Reply #40 on:** February 21, 2006, 10:43:07 AM »

hmmm. Im thinking.

Didn't that Danish newspaper insult Islam with those Stupid pointless cartoons? And got away with it under "Freedom of Speech"

Im not defending him, but was wondering, how come this guy does not come under "freedom of Speech" ?

Again, Im just asking

lasersailor184 · « **Reply #41 on:** February 21, 2006, 11:20:31 AM »

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Originally posted by lasersailor184
In another thread I claimed that Western Europeans would let anyone get away with anything, except denying the holocaust.

I've been proved.

there's your answer.

Mathman · « **Reply #42 on:** February 21, 2006, 12:21:56 PM »

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Originally posted by randomguy
hmmm. Im thinking.

Didn't that Danish newspaper insult Islam with those Stupid pointless cartoons? And got away with it under "Freedom of Speech"

Im not defending him, but was wondering, how come this guy does not come under "freedom of Speech" ?

Again, Im just asking

Maybe because the holocaust denial took place in Austria. Tough for Danish law to help out there, don't ya think?

and I don't care one way or the other on this issue. The guy broke a law he knew was there, seems like he got what he deserved. Now, does the law itself make sense? Can't say, I am not an Austrian.

Thrawn · « **Reply #43 on:** February 21, 2006, 02:37:26 PM »

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Originally posted by Mathman
Now, does the law itself make sense? Can't say, I am not an Austrian

Of course you can, or does your brain stop working when a moral question happens to be situated in another country?

Mathman · « **Reply #44 on:** February 21, 2006, 04:21:15 PM »

You're right Thrawn, I can have an opinion on this. However, I truly don't give a **** about a guy getting thrown in jail for breaking a law he knew existed, regardless of how right or wrong I think the law is. I suppose I should have just stated that, but I didn't.

Please continue your debate.