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« Reply #15 on: October 10, 2001, 09:04:00 AM »
Nuke the Pakistans!!!

Nuke'em all!!!

Nuke the allies, they can become enemys in the future!!!

Nuke ourselves, to avoid a civil war!!!

Nuke the world!!!!

<Dr. Strangelove walk away with an evil grin on his face...>

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« Reply #16 on: October 10, 2001, 09:17:00 AM »
I will garantee you one thing, if the terrorist decide that carrying a small nuke into a major city anywhere in the world and detonate it, Afganastan WILL be glass.

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« Reply #17 on: October 10, 2001, 09:24:00 AM »
The world is lucky you are'nt the President  ;)

... or a mullah  :D

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« Reply #18 on: October 10, 2001, 09:32:00 AM »
Naso.. we're on the slippery slope now... we're trying to keep the confrontation limited to a 'war on terror'..

Sadly; it seems to me that the opposition intends to up the ante, and is working very very hard at portraying this as a "war on Islam".

Should they use ANY weapon of mass destruction I feer they shall get their wish.. and it will mean the end of Islam.
The price of Freedom is the willingness to do sudden battle, anywhere, any time and with utter recklessness...

...at home, or abroad.

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« Reply #19 on: October 10, 2001, 09:54:00 AM »
Hangtime, listen,

5,000+ people already died and this, in my mind, is already mass destruction.

But...

It's a small group of amazinhunks organizing this, with BinLaden as theyr boss (apparently).
What he want IS the jihad, IS the West going after the entire Islam.
You want become (with our nations) another of his puppets?

In real life, if someone stole you the car, you kill the entire city?

Many posters here, including you, are waving the flag of the crusade against the entire Islam, you are working for OBL (dont get offended).

Do you really think we have to wage war against 1.200.000.000 people (or more), for a small group of mad people (say 100, 1.000, even 100.000?), is like killing a fly with an handgrenade in a closed room.

Cynically, we NEED the moderate Islam as allied, for many reasons, and the best thing to do, after killed that amazinhunk in a painful manner (and, why not, changed the government in Afghanistan), is to work to repair the big mistakes we have done in the past, the reasons for witch this crazy organization still find recruits.

The only way to win the war against the terrorism, is to take away reasons (escuses) under theyr feet.

Otherwise we will count billions of deaths, and China will quietly take the glowing remnants of this crazy world.

I hope our governments will hold the things and not loose control.

Ever.

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« Reply #20 on: October 10, 2001, 10:33:00 AM »
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Originally posted by Hangtime:
Should they use ANY weapon of mass destruction I feer they shall get their wish.. and it will mean the end of Islam.

Islam isnt just based in Pakistan, or Afghanistan

 Tronsky
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« Reply #21 on: October 10, 2001, 10:39:00 AM »
Duh.

Yah think??

If it turns into a civilization war Tronski, who do you thinks gonna win?

Scenario: The Muslim Clerics call for "JIHAD!!!  STRIKE THE INFIDEL!!.."

And do you think we will hesitate to retaliate???

Islam would be iradiacated.. and irradiated.

THATS the point. Lets hope they don't make that call.. so we won't have to.
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« Reply #22 on: October 10, 2001, 10:44:00 AM »
Naso:
"The only way to win the war against the terrorism, is to take away reasons (escuses) under theyr feet."

So how do you think we should do this Naso? Flowers in the end of their gun barrels? Please tell us how you would handle the situation.

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« Reply #23 on: October 10, 2001, 10:46:00 AM »
Only way to win a war against terrorism is to kill the terrorists.

You can't reason with them. You can't give them a fruit basket and expect them to love you. You sure as hell can't expect them to just change for no other reason other than because we ask them to.

They want to kill Americans and Jews, and take themselves with us.
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« Reply #24 on: October 10, 2001, 10:52:00 AM »
Naso.. I agree with most of your points.

But.. (a large bald one) We have made it very clear.. unite with us against terror, or suffer the fate of the terrorists. The Taliban is squarely in our sights now.

At this point in time I would expect all (ALL, DAMMIT; not just the ones here in the US) Muslim Clerics, worldwide; to state clearly to their followers that they disavow OBL's tactics, that he is a Murderer, and that his actions are not in accord with the whises of Allah.

THAT HAS NOT HAPPENED.

Hence; it's looking like it's gonna be JIHAD.

What would you have us do?

Surrender?
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« Reply #25 on: October 10, 2001, 12:17:00 PM »
Wow, a lot of posts during the travel back home from work  :)

Ok, will answer in order.

Tronsky said:
 
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Islam isnt just based in Pakistan, or Afghanistan

Your answer:

 
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Yah think??

If it turns into a civilization war Tronski, who do you thinks gonna win?

Scenario: The Muslim Clerics call for "JIHAD!!! STRIKE THE INFIDEL!!.."

And do you think we will hesitate to retaliate???

Islam would be iradiacated.. and irradiated.

 

I urge you to check a world map, and consider:

North and part of central Africa is Islam.
From Urales to Saudi peninsula from Israel (excluded, of course) to China, excluding a big part of India, is Islam.
Indonesia is Islam.
Not counting all the small enclaves, or the Islamic people living in you own country or in Europe.

Islam is the whole people of many races that have the same religion.

You want to A-bomb half of the world landscape?
And pretend you will not suffer consequencies?
Think just about the fallout.

C'mon, get real.

THen Hang asked:

 
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Naso:
"The only way to win the war against the terrorism, is to take away reasons (escuses) under theyr feet."
So how do you think we should do this Naso? Flowers in the end of their gun barrels? Please tell us how you would handle the situation.

 

LOL, flowers in the guns  ;)

No,

first, we have a good friend, but this guy it's a little nasty, he keep kicking in the ball a little boy because need his "Vital space" (dont remember something to you?), and we have feed him with money and know-how since the end of the war, basically because we felt guilty of what another bad guy made to him, and we not prevented this to happen.
Meanwhile we have ignored the screams for help of the little guy for years.
Now is time to hold the nasty friend for the clothes, look in his eyes and say "stop it!!".

You know what I'm talking about, uh?  ;)

Then we have to start a new economy, a new way to globalize, not in the hands of some profit-religious corporation, but in the hand of the peoples, as YOUR constitution stated very well (and I S! it), for the good of the human being.

If we dont control the behaviour of our corporations out of our territorial limits, we will never get rid of poverty, and, of course, the hate vs us.

Fight the poverty (sp?), you'll have a better world.

I know, it's a long run work, but we need to start, before to change this bowl in a glowing bowl.

Then the precious SW added:

 
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Only way to win a war against terrorism is to kill the terrorists

True, well, not always, but true for most part of cases.

But we need to avoid new terrorists arise, for every one we kill, they showed us to be capable to bring a lot of people with them in heaven.

Finally Hang said:

 
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At this point in time I would expect all (ALL, DAMMIT; not just the ones here in the US) Muslim Clerics, worldwide; to state clearly to their followers that they disavow OBL's tactics, that he is a Murderer, and that his actions are not in accord with the whises of Allah.

THAT HAS NOT HAPPENED.

Hence; it's looking like it's gonna be JIHAD.

What would you have us do?

Surrender?
 

Surrender?

NEVER!!

Seem our governors are doing a good work to keep the things calm.

And we know very well how we are able to change the things without even show up.
CIA is renewed for this.

Look at the Pakistan:
First day riots everywhere.
Second day some death, and Talib-friendly army generals arrested, with some mullah.
Third day no or little riots.

Disclaimer:
It's not the CIA in this case, it's the dictator wanting to have a better grip over power, and what better occasion of this crisis?  ;)

Make sense all the above for you?

Hippye-Naso
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« Reply #26 on: October 10, 2001, 12:27:00 PM »
I don't know what the "precious" comment was for, however, in this case (which is what I thought we were talking about) the only way out is to kill this group.

As is, it's their children being taught and brought up to despise the US, Jews and anything that would support either of the two aforementioned types of people.

We can't slap Bin Laden's wrist. We can't take him prisoner either, else we run an even greater risk of his followers becomming more violent and dangerous. Not just in the US either, mind you, this is a threat to all who are against terrorism and support the US.

You can cut the head off a chicken, but the lil' bastard keeps running around.

We are going to systematically destroy terrorist cells.

This is the first step to making the world a safer place for our children.
-SW

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« Reply #27 on: October 10, 2001, 12:30:00 PM »
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Originally posted by SWulfe:
I don't know what the "precious" comment was for, -SW

Was Joking, dont get offended, please.

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« Reply #28 on: October 10, 2001, 12:32:00 PM »
I'm not at all, sorry- was trying to be ironic.

I keep forgetting it's hard to be ironic when you can't change the tone of your text.   ;)
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« Reply #29 on: October 10, 2001, 12:34:00 PM »
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Originally posted by SWulfe:
in this case (which is what I thought we were talking about) the only way out is to kill this group.

As is, it's their children being taught and brought up to despise the US, Jews and anything that would support either of the two aforementioned types of people.

Sorry, but my not-english culture is in difficult here.

You meant to kill the children?

Hope I misunderstand.