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Offline lazs2

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« Reply #105 on: February 27, 2006, 08:27:26 AM »
ripley... ok.. the topic is history.  I have said... religion did not exist in a vacumn.... camalot did not exist.   cruelty reigned.  You jump back and forth in history and that is fine.   You claim government is based on fact that is not true at all...  government is based on fear of the people and any excuse to get more power over the people will be used.

It has allways been that way.  if anything, religion was used and perverted by governments.   The bible didn't create the inquisitions.... the government did.  The bible didn't create or advocate the crusades... the government did.



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« Reply #106 on: February 27, 2006, 08:36:16 AM »
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You claim government is based on fact that is not true at all


No lazs I said that the governments decisions are based on facts, not the fear of supernatural. The first one follows logic, latter does not. Which also makes it a very very bad form of government.
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« Reply #107 on: February 27, 2006, 08:58:54 AM »
ok... first of all.... government decisions are not based on fact but fear.... fear of the people..   Every decision government makes is to give it more power.... fear of cost or fear of security or fear of injury or.... the latest junk science.... fear of destroying the environment.... all are government tactics to gain control and suck money and freedom and hope out of people...  

government will team with any group (including religious) who will give them more power and grow government.  

Religion has no control over people unless they grant it to the religion.... government has armies and police and legions of beurocrats to keep tab on and jail you if you do not do as they say.

Sooo... why are you threatened by religion and not government?   The "history" of religion is kings and tyrants using (perverting) religion in order to get what THEY wanted.... more power.   to blame religion is to not be able to see the forest for the trees.

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« Reply #108 on: February 27, 2006, 10:51:48 AM »
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I have great faith that the Exodus did happen the way described in the Bible.
Science actually supports the events



From what you have said, science apparently supports that the events were possible, not that they happened.

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« Reply #109 on: February 27, 2006, 11:43:01 AM »
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government decisions are not based on fact but fear


What does the government fear in your opinnion?
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« Reply #110 on: February 27, 2006, 11:47:36 AM »
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Originally posted by MrRiplEy[H]
What does the government fear in your opinnion?


Killer rabbits.

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« Reply #111 on: February 27, 2006, 02:31:52 PM »
ripley.... All government fears it's people.  It is only by the peoples laziness and stupidity that government is able to rule them.   No government can stand against a people united against them.... governments  fear revolution more than anything.   Governments fear that everyone will wise up at the same time.

on an idividual basis... those in power most fear the loss of power.  There is nothing that they won't do or say in order to remain in power.

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