Author Topic: We Definately need this! - Heinkel He 177 (Read 527 times)

Bombardy · « **on:** March 09, 2006, 12:04:42 AM »

Per Wiki Pedia (we all know it's definitive so don't even try to argue!) over 1000 were PRODUCED!

WIKIPEDIA LINK

come on - seriously - buff pilots need this, something new, something fast, something that uniquie

Maximum speed 512 km/h @ 6,100 m 295 mph @ 21,000 ft
Combat range 1.540 km 960 miles
Ferry range 5.600 km 3.200 miles
Service ceiling 9,400 m 30,800 ft
Rate of climb m/min ft/min
Wing loading 319.9 kg/m² 65.6 lb/ft²
Power/mass 110 W/kg 0.067 hp/lb
Armament
Guns six to eight MG/cannons
Bombs 7,200 kg 15,900 lb

!!!Maximum speed 512 km/h @ 6,100 m 295 mph @ 21,000 ft !!!!

ramzey · « **Reply #1 on:** March 09, 2006, 12:56:01 AM »

we need many more, this one is not on list

Rino · « **Reply #2 on:** March 09, 2006, 01:33:20 AM »

Should be a nice challenge for HTC to model the engine problems.

KD303 · « **Reply #3 on:** March 10, 2006, 09:48:39 AM »

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Originally posted by Rino
Should be a nice challenge for HTC to model the engine problems.

Yeah. Looked good on paper...and would probably have performed better if it had been made of paper. Trying to couple four engines to a twin layout caused massive problems and it was not a success. The name, "Grief" (Griffon, I admit) was fitting - several protoypes crashed. Engine fires were a problem which plagued the 177 throughout it's service life.

Like many German bombers (all, really, thanks in part to Ernst Udet's love of dive bombers and all things dive bombing) it had to have a dive bombing capability built in, even though it was obviously designed to be a heavy bomber, suited to level bombing (although I'm sure it would be popular with those who like using Lancs as dive bombers in AH as it could dive at high speed without the wings falling off and was at least designed to used that way, no matter how ill advised). This always required strengthening and weight increase and...performance loss. The OP missed out the climb rate - 853ft (260m)/min; I believe.

I can't be arsed going into more detail but it wasn't a great plane and it would not be right to have a 177 in AH. My opinion, of course. If anyone thinks the 177 was actually a great plane, then go ahead...explain.

KD