Author Topic: NASA to announce possible life in our own solar system!  (Read 927 times)

Offline Redwing

  • Copper Member
  • **
  • Posts: 213
NASA to announce possible life in our own solar system!
« Reply #30 on: March 09, 2006, 01:51:43 PM »
USHilDvl, you're right, at least according to the classic explanation for the sudden massive forming of rocks consisting large amounts of iron-II-oxide (so called banded iron formations, which can be found a lot throughout the USA and Australia). The free iron ions in the oceans were oxidized as soon as free oxygen was available and sedimented on the seafloors as iron-oxides. About 90% or the worlds iron deposits are situated in such iron formations.

Newer theories suggest another possible explanation for the forming of these rocks. Anoxygenic photoautotrophic bacteria can also catalyze iron-II oxidation under anoxic conditions. It's all quite controversial, but as usual the truth probably lies somewhere in the middle. Part of the oxidizing happened directly due to free oxygen, part was due to anoxic catalyzation by microbacteria.

Now, to get this thread back on topic: These photoautotrophic bacteria of course could very well also exist elsewhere.

Offline Skuzzy

  • Support Member
  • Administrator
  • *****
  • Posts: 31462
      • HiTech Creations Home Page
NASA to announce possible life in our own solar system!
« Reply #31 on: March 09, 2006, 02:27:46 PM »
Just in case it is true, it looks like NASA is ready.

Roy "Skuzzy" Neese
support@hitechcreations.com

Offline 2bighorn

  • Gold Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 2829
NASA to announce possible life in our own solar system!
« Reply #32 on: March 09, 2006, 03:19:42 PM »
Update; Drudge too fast on "submit" button: http://www.local6.com/news/7850413/detail.html

Offline Saintaw

  • Platinum Member
  • ******
  • Posts: 6692
      • My blog
NASA to announce possible life in our own solar system!
« Reply #33 on: March 09, 2006, 03:26:11 PM »
:lol
Saw
Dirty, nasty furriner.

Offline USHilDvl

  • Copper Member
  • **
  • Posts: 221
NASA to announce possible life in our own solar system!
« Reply #34 on: March 09, 2006, 04:14:20 PM »
Well, how do you like that?  :rolleyes:  Perhaps the Tech editor at that station should learn the subject matter a bit better?

Not so bad, tho...I never expected an annoucement of life, just free liquid water.

That's it, Red...you've got the detail I was referring to.  Photoautotrophic bacteria.  (if that isn't a $300 dollar word, I don't know what is  :D  )

As I recall, the binding of the free iron atoms was critical to creating the right chemistry for animal life?  Or was that the carbon cycle...these thoughts get a little greasy and hard to hold on to without regular practice!

Skuzz...that's a crackup.  Took me ten minutes to clean the ole' monitor and get the bubbles out of my sinuses!

Offline tedrbr

  • Silver Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 1813
NASA to announce possible life in our own solar system!
« Reply #35 on: March 09, 2006, 07:18:48 PM »
Quote
Originally posted by USHilDvl
Yeager, I do believe you are correct...but a bummer anyway.  :p

However, that which dies, must also be born..so the cycle restarts.

.........



Not if it's the "Heat Death of the Universe"!....no recycle.  Just atoms drifting further apart ad infinum....... The End.

Now, if the universe slows, collapses into the "Big Squish", and begins anew with another "Big Bang"....then ya got something there....

oh....I'll never get to sleep tonight worrying about this.....  :confused:

Offline dmf

  • Gold Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 2920
NASA to announce possible life in our own solar system!
« Reply #36 on: March 09, 2006, 08:26:13 PM »
OK they found signs of possible water on a moon ooooooohhhhhhh....... its not liek I'll ever go swiming there.

As far as life in out solar system, yea theres life in this solar system, on the 3rd planet from the sun, theres just no intelligent life in our solar system.

Offline FiLtH

  • Platinum Member
  • ******
  • Posts: 6448
NASA to announce possible life in our own solar system!
« Reply #37 on: March 09, 2006, 08:35:30 PM »
Imagine just now, the aliens are saying..

"They have found it."

   "Very well...initiate Plan 392."

"But..that will..that..."

    "Initiate."

~AoM~

Offline guttboy

  • Silver Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 1408
NASA to announce possible life in our own solar system!
« Reply #38 on: March 09, 2006, 09:21:19 PM »
Of course there is life outside the planet earth!!!!

Jim Morrisson, Elvis, Jimmy Hoffa, Marilyn Monroe......they are all hanging out on the Dark Side of the Moon!!!!:D

Offline bozon

  • Platinum Member
  • ******
  • Posts: 6037
NASA to announce possible life in our own solar system!
« Reply #39 on: March 10, 2006, 06:17:30 AM »
Quote
Originally posted by Yeager
the universe is thick with life, life has existed for billions of years (probably 13 or 14 billion, give or take a few hundred million).  Life will continue to exist and evolve for many more billions of years...perhaps as long as 30 to 40 billion more years but alas....eventually everything that is energy, life...will eventually be extinguished forever.  Our universe will eventually die.

Where did you get that from? The age of the universe is around 13 billion years, with best estimate of 13.7 I think. The youngest galaxies we observe are 8-9 billion years ago. And no sign of life anywhere outside the solar system. So far only 1 non-solar planet discovered that has any potential to host life.

Quote
Originally posted by USHilDvl
And, I think there are some interesting questions on the table these days concerning the absolutes of Einsteinian physics..especially in light of quantum physics, which seems to put the lie to Einsteinian and Newtonian physics both, and return us to the realm of PFM (Pure Freakin' Magic). Remember, at the quantum level, a particle CAN exist in more than one place, and only appears in one place when observed. Schroedinger's Cat, and all that.

Not really. Quantum mechanics does not contradict relativity (general or special). The problem is opposite, they do not cross at all. It's just that gravity is explained so differently from the other forces. Gravity is not even a "force" in relativity.

Dark matter and dark energy are gravitational things we can't explain yet. Either there's something new out there, or that gravity needs another revision. Eitherway this is exciting and people are working on both approaches. Some crazy ideas are raised from modified gravity laws, through new particles, to compact or warped extra dimentions.

NON of this is PFM. There's no problem in particles who exists in more than one place except for our poor preception of what a particle is.

Bozon

btw, I can assure you Schroedinger's Cat is already dead.
Mosquito VI - twice the spitfire, four times the ENY.

Click!>> "So, you want to fly the wooden wonder" - <<click!
the almost incomplete and not entirely inaccurate guide to the AH Mosquito.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RGOWswdzGQs

Offline bozon

  • Platinum Member
  • ******
  • Posts: 6037
NASA to announce possible life in our own solar system!
« Reply #40 on: March 10, 2006, 06:25:19 AM »
One more thing I forgot to mention in regard to other intelligent life. All the science fiction assume that there are other anchient and advanced races out there.

Here's a scary thought - What if WE are the anchient advanced race ? and this is as intelligent as it gets?
Just imagine a universe full of races even more stupid than we are.

Bozon
Mosquito VI - twice the spitfire, four times the ENY.

Click!>> "So, you want to fly the wooden wonder" - <<click!
the almost incomplete and not entirely inaccurate guide to the AH Mosquito.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RGOWswdzGQs

Offline DREDIOCK

  • Plutonium Member
  • *******
  • Posts: 17775
NASA to announce possible life in our own solar system!
« Reply #41 on: March 10, 2006, 07:43:51 AM »
Gee I hope not.

I've been having a hard enough time in the last 10 years trying to explain and get through to one of my brother in laws that the reason why, when he goes camping and in his words exactly
 "Man from up there, the sky is so clear I can see "The Milky Way"

:lol
Death is no easy answer
For those who wish to know
Ask those who have been before you
What fate the future holds
It ain't pretty

Offline dmf

  • Gold Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 2920
NASA to announce possible life in our own solar system!
« Reply #42 on: March 12, 2006, 01:25:07 PM »
Quote
Originally posted by bozon
One more thing I forgot to mention in regard to other intelligent life. All the science fiction assume that there are other anchient and advanced races out there.

Here's a scary thought - What if WE are the anchient advanced race ? and this is as intelligent as it gets?
Just imagine a universe full of races even more stupid than we are.

Bozon


Or worse, what if we used to be a advanced race and and through the centuries we forgot everything?