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Offline Angus

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« Reply #15 on: March 15, 2006, 11:45:44 AM »
More to combustion technology:
http://www.tct.is. In Icelandic, but has pictures and perhaps an english version.
This is what their carburettor looks like:
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« Reply #16 on: March 15, 2006, 02:26:17 PM »
yep.. water injection cools the mixture during one of the normal 4 strokes of an internal combustion engine where as this thing adds two strokes to the process that make use of waste heat.

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« Reply #17 on: March 15, 2006, 02:33:23 PM »
Thanks, guys...got the basic idea about the extra power stroke concept...just need to see it laid out in more detail.  I can't visualize the exact nature of the extra cycles, though I understand the result.

Thanks also for the link.  However...it's restricted access, at least to me.  Not to worry, though...I can't speak or read a word of Icelandic (although the label on the pic was clear enough!) :D

Anybody able to point me to a drawing/graphic of the process, cycle by cycle?

Thanks again...
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« Reply #18 on: March 15, 2006, 02:40:46 PM »
I know a guy who works on the development. I'll ask if he has something in english ;)

edit: BTW, TCT stands for Total Combustion Technology.
The concept works and is now en route into mass production.
I think Honda is the lucky dealer there.
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« Reply #19 on: March 15, 2006, 04:33:38 PM »
Darn.
My wife bought a humidifier just yesterday.
First cars cause golbal warming & now they're going to add the humidity.
I've been missing the east coast summer weather since I moved west....
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« Reply #20 on: March 15, 2006, 06:46:30 PM »
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Originally posted by USHilDvl
I can't visualize the exact nature of the extra cycles, though I understand the result.


Typ 4 stroke...

1 Piston down...Intake
2 Piston up...Compression
2.1 Fuel injection
3 Piston down...Burn / Power
4 Piston up...Exhaust

What I get as a 6 stroke...

1 Piston down...Intake
2 Piston up...Compression
2.1 Fuel injection
3 Piston down...Burn / Power
4 Piston up...Exhaust
4.1 Water injection
5 Piston down...Steam expansion / power
6 Piston up...Steam exhaust
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« Reply #21 on: March 15, 2006, 07:27:09 PM »
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Originally posted by Holden McGroin
Typ 4 stroke...

1 Piston down...Intake
2 Piston up...Compression
2.1 Fuel injection
3 Piston down...Burn / Power
4 Piston up...Exhaust

What I get as a 6 stroke...

1 Piston down...Intake
2 Piston up...Compression
2.1 Fuel injection
3 Piston down...Burn / Power
4 Piston up...Exhaust
4.1 Water injection
5 Piston down...Steam expansion / power
6 Piston up...Steam exhaust



and you have to stop every 100 miles to refill your water tank. just like the steam engines did.
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« Reply #22 on: March 15, 2006, 09:11:01 PM »
Read the article, and you find that he expects it'll need about as much water as it does gas.  The only issue he sees right away is that he thinks purified water may be required to avoid mineral deposits.  The water may blow out carbon buildup but could deposit harder minerals if the water isn't purified.

Gonna take a big research lab to make this concept fly, but hopefully he'll prove it to the point where a major automaker is willing to put the bucks behind the idea to make an actual product.
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« Reply #23 on: March 15, 2006, 10:58:09 PM »
This is why the Saudis own most of the natural fresh water supplies!

The bastages.
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« Reply #24 on: March 16, 2006, 01:48:20 AM »
Imagine how it would look driving such a car at the cold winter day when temperature is below zero Celsius... real smoke screen behind the car.
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« Reply #25 on: March 16, 2006, 03:12:22 AM »
Maybe one can cheat with glycol?
Or heated water, lol.
edit: or use liquor, hehe.
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« Reply #26 on: March 16, 2006, 09:03:26 AM »
why would any human live where the temperature may get below freezing?   Ice bears don't drive.

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« Reply #27 on: March 16, 2006, 09:06:36 AM »
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Originally posted by Debonair
Darn.
My wife bought a humidifier just yesterday.
First cars cause golbal warming & now they're going to add the humidity.
I've been missing the east coast summer weather since I moved west....


they dont have a sauna near you? LOL
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« Reply #28 on: March 16, 2006, 10:44:32 AM »
"why would any human live where the temperature may get below freezing? Ice bears don't drive"

Ahemm,,,,a big part of the civilized & car driving population on earth actually do live where it occationally freezes.
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« Reply #29 on: March 16, 2006, 02:28:34 PM »
doesn't sound very civilized to me.

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