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Schwein · « **Reply #30 on:** March 20, 2006, 02:23:21 PM »

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Originally posted by Pooh21
wow someone is yellow

Yes indeed. If I had to die I'd march to the showers with my head held high, rather than taking many other innocent civilians with me in some hopeless "last stand". When you know you can't surrender it doesn't take courage to fight to the death, but it does take courage to give up your live to save others.

People who fight and die for nothing aren’t heroes. They’re idiots.

lasersailor184 · « **Reply #31 on:** March 20, 2006, 02:24:16 PM »

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A valiant stand, but uttery pointless. If I were jewish and somehow unfit to serve in the armed forces I'd rather flee from the UK than sit and wait to be killed. Rifle in hand or not.

Edit: Also it would be selfish of you to provoke the Germans to level London and kill thousands of civilians just to alow you your death of choice.

Just like you, nothing is keeping the rest of the cowards from fleeing in terror from things they shouldn't be afraid of.

Schwein · « **Reply #32 on:** March 20, 2006, 02:24:20 PM »

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Originally posted by lazs2
never heard of you.

lazs

No why should you have?

straffo · « **Reply #33 on:** March 20, 2006, 02:25:44 PM »

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Originally posted by lazs2
every country including germany decided that the Swiss would be to difficult to invade because of the armed population and...

it was certainly not this simple !

Hitler about the swiss and their country

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"the most despicable and wretched people, mortal enemies of the new Germany"

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"the rubbish of small nations"

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"I'll be the Butcher of the Swiss."

indy007 · « **Reply #34 on:** March 20, 2006, 02:30:35 PM »

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Originally posted by Schwein
You think an armed population would be able to stop an invading army?

You think those old men marching down the streets of London would be a match for the Whermacht if they had guns?

Yes & yes. History repeats itself.

Furball · « **Reply #35 on:** March 20, 2006, 02:30:58 PM »

And did those feet in ancient time
Walk upon England's mountains green
And was the holy lamb of God
On England's pleasant pastures seen

And did the countenance divine
Shine forth upon our clouded hills
And was Jerusalem builded there
Among those dark Satanic mills

Bring me my bow (my bow) of burning gold
Bring me my arrows of desire
Bring me my spears o'clouds unfold
Bring me my chariot of fire

I will not cease from mental fight
Nor shall my (my) sword sleep in hand
'Til we have built Jerusalem
In England's green and pleasant land
'Til we have built Jerusalem
In England's green and pleasant land

Schwein · « **Reply #36 on:** March 20, 2006, 02:32:54 PM »

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Originally posted by lasersailor184
Just like you, nothing is keeping the rest of the cowards from fleeing in terror from things they shouldn't be afraid of.

Like I said: People who fight and die for nothing are idiots.

How many Poles, Czechoslovakians, French, Danes, Norwegians, Belgians, Dutch etc. fled to Britain from a hopless fight in their homelands? Those men, especially the Poles and Czech helped save Britain and went on to help defeat Germany and free their own countries.

Your romantic last stand is as idiotic as it is pointless.

Schwein · « **Reply #37 on:** March 20, 2006, 02:36:29 PM »

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Originally posted by indy007
Yes & yes. History repeats itself.

History is all good and well, but in modern warfare rifles no longer win wars, and certainly not in the hands of untrained and unorganized civilians.

History does indeed repeat itself, just look at the siege of Warsaw.

lazs2 · « **Reply #38 on:** March 20, 2006, 02:37:47 PM »

Hitler did not invade the Swiss... nor did anyone else. No one has invaded the U.S.

swein... you would go to your execution proudly instead of some last stand? Maybe if that is the kind of country you live in then you are probly right.... may as well just roll over.

Myself.... I am counting on my countrymen to resist... no matter the cost. Let em kill 10 for 1.... let em kill 100 for 1... won't work on me. Not my problem... my problem would be how to kill even more of them while they waste their time killing civilians.

lazs

lazs2 · « **Reply #39 on:** March 20, 2006, 02:40:18 PM »

swein.... you look at warsaw... there were very few guns in warsaw against huge odds and they did pretty well.

rifles do indeed win wars at local levels all the time even today... most of the fighting in any little brushfire war in the middle east or africa or any of a number of places is fought with rifles.

lazs

lasersailor184 · « **Reply #40 on:** March 20, 2006, 02:42:16 PM »

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Like I said: People who fight and die for nothing are idiots.

How many Poles, Czechoslovakians, French, Danes, Norwegians, Belgians, Dutch etc. fled to Britain from a hopless fight in their homelands? Those men, especially the Poles and Czech helped save Britain and went on to help defeat Germany and free their own countries.

Your romantic last stand is as idiotic as it is pointless.

If you believe that I would be fighting or dieing for nothing, then you truly are the idiot. And you are not salvageable.

Schwein · « **Reply #41 on:** March 20, 2006, 02:48:10 PM »

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Originally posted by lazs2
swein.... you look at warsaw... there were very few guns in warsaw against huge odds and they did pretty well.

rifles do indeed win wars at local levels all the time even today... most of the fighting in any little brushfire war in the middle east or africa or any of a number of places is fought with rifles.

lazs

I don't think you will find many historians who will agree that the defense of Warsaw was in any way a success. Much of the city was destroyed and the German casualties were negligible.

A "little brushfire war in the middle east or africa or any of a number of places" are not examples of modern warfare.

Schwein · « **Reply #42 on:** March 20, 2006, 02:50:31 PM »

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Originally posted by lasersailor184
If you believe that I would be fighting or dieing for nothing, then you truly are the idiot. And you are not salvageable.

So you'd rather die now than live to fight another day?

ChickenHawk · « **Reply #43 on:** March 20, 2006, 02:51:41 PM »

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Originally posted by Schwein
Your romantic last stand is as idiotic as it is pointless.

I know of 300 Spartan soldiers at Thermopylae who would disagree with that.

lazs2 · « **Reply #44 on:** March 20, 2006, 02:51:51 PM »

would modern warfare be in say iraq?

as for warsaw.... you would rather march in single file to the ovens rather than fight?

I hope to gawd I never feel as you do.

lazs