Osama Bin Laden Contact With Iraq

[Ripsnort]

What did you say? no link between Osama bin hidin and Saddam?
http://abcnews.go.com/International/IraqCoverage/story?id=1734490&page=1


March 22, 2006 — Following are the ABC News Investigative Unit's summaries of five documents from Saddam Hussein's government, which have been released by the U.S. government.

The documents discuss Osama bin Laden, weapons of mass destruction, al Qaeda and more.

The full documents can be found on the U.S. Army Foreign Military Studies Office Web site: http://fmso.leavenworth.army.mil/products-docex.htm.

Note: Document titles were added by ABC News.



"Osama Bin Laden Contact With Iraq"

A newly released pre-war Iraqi document indicates that an official representative of Saddam Hussein's government met with Osama bin Laden in Sudan on February 19, 1995 after approval by Saddam Hussein. Bin Laden asked that Iraq broadcast the lectures of Suleiman al Ouda, a radical Saudi preacher, and suggested "carrying out joint operations against foreign forces" in Saudi Arabia. According to the document, Saddam's presidency was informed of the details of the meeting on March 4, 1995 and Saddam agreed to dedicate a program for them on the radio. The document states that further "development of the relationship and cooperation between the two parties to be left according to what's open (in the future) based on dialogue and agreement on other ways of cooperation." The Sudanese were informed about the agreement to dedicate the program on the radio.

The report then states that "Saudi opposition figure" bin Laden had to leave Sudan in July 1996 after it was accused of harboring terrorists. It says information indicated he was in Afghanistan. "The relationship with him is still through the Sudanese. We're currently working on activating this relationship through a new channel in light of his current location," it states.

(Editor's Note: This document is handwritten and has no official seal. Although contacts between bin Laden and the Iraqis have been reported in the 9/11 Commission report and elsewhere, (e.g. the 9/11 report states "Bin Ladn himself met with a senior Iraqi intelligence officer in Khartoum in late 1994 or early 1995) this document indicates the contacts were approved personally by Saddam Hussein.

It also indicates the discussions were substantive, in particular that bin Laden was proposing an operational relationship, and that the Iraqis were, at a minimum, interested in exploring a potential relationship and prepared to show good faith by broadcasting the speeches of al Ouda, the radical cleric who was also a bin Laden mentor.

The document does not establish that the two parties did in fact enter into an operational relationship. Given that the document claims bin Laden was proposing to the Iraqis that they conduct "joint operations against foreign forces" in Saudi Arabia, it is interesting to note that eight months after the meeting — on November 13, 1995 — terrorists attacked Saudi National Guard Headquarters in Riyadh, killing 5 U.S. military advisors. The militants later confessed on Saudi TV to having been trained by Osama bin Laden.)





"Osama bin Laden and the Taliban"

Document dated Sept. 15, 2001

An Iraqi intelligence service document saying that their Afghani informant, who's only identified by a number, told them that the Afghani Consul Ahmed Dahastani claimed the following in front of him:


 That OBL and the Taliban are in contact with Iraq and that a group of Taliban and bin Laden group members visited Iraq.
 That the U.S. has proof the Iraqi government and "bin Laden's group" agreed to cooperate to attack targets inside America.
 That in case the Taliban and bin Laden's group turn out to be involved in "these destructive operations," the U.S. may strike Iraq and Afghanistan.
 That the Afghani consul heard about the issue of Iraq's relationship with "bin Laden's group" while he was in Iran.

At the end, the writer recommends informing "the committee of intentions" about the above-mentioned items. The signature on the document is unclear.

(Editor's Note: The controversial claim that Osama bin Laden was cooperating with Saddam Hussein is an ongoing matter of intense debate. While the assertions contained in this document clearly support the claim, the sourcing is questionable — i.e. an unnamed Afghan "informant" reporting on a conversation with another Afghan "consul." The date of the document — four days after 9/11 — is worth noting but without further corroboration, this document is of limited evidentiary value.)


"Election Campaign Laws in France"

Documents dated July-August 1999

Correspondence regarding election campaigns in France. This includes a document from the Iraqi intelligence service classified as "secret," ordering the translation of important parts of a 1997 report about campaign financing laws in France. It also includes a document from the foreign minister's office indicating the report was attached. The attached translated report included very detailed information about all the regulations regarding financing of election campaigns in France. Translation was done by someone called "Salam Abdul Karim Mohammed."

(Editor's Note: This is an intriguing document which suggests Saddam Hussein's regime had a strong interest in the mechanics and legalities of financial contributions to French politicians. Several former French politicians are implicated in receiving oil vouchers from Iraq under the U.N. Oil for Food program.)

[Gh0stFT]

Originally posted by Ripsnort
...The document does not establish that the two parties did in fact enter into an operational relationship...

of course.

[Ripsnort]

Originally posted by Gh0stFT
of course.

Although contacts between bin Laden and the Iraqis have been reported in the 9/11 Commission report and elsewhere, (e.g. the 9/11 report states "Bin Ladn himself met with a senior Iraqi intelligence officer in Khartoum in late 1994 or early 1995) this document indicates the contacts were approved personally by Saddam Hussein.

Isn't quoting what you want to make your point fun?

[MrRiplEy[H]]

If approving contacts with people warrants for something you can blame every leader of this planet, including Bush. Weak, very weak indeed.

[Furball]

why not just check the stamps on osama's passport?

(For my American friends: a passport is a little book you use to get into other countries)

[SirLoin]

Keep on diggin' Ripsnort..

[Gunslinger]

There is a point in all of this.  There are literally MILLIONS of documents that have been captured from Iraq that have yet to be authenticated, sorted, interpreted and anylized.  Yet the MSM doesn't seem to report this all that much.

[Jackal1]

WAYS TO ANNOY OSAMA BIN LADEN

   
    * Point out the lice in his beard to make him feel self-conscious.
    * Pause for a moment, listen carefully, and say, "Doesn't that sound a lot like a B-52?"
    * Ask him if he's looking forward to replacing Hitler as Satan's favorite chew toy in the lowest inferno of Hell.
    * Tell him all about your great vacation to Saudi Arabia, where you went absolutely everywhere and did everything, just stomped all over the place.
    * Use his satellite phone to call the time and weather line in Buenos Aires and leave it off the hook.
    * Tell him how much less you paid for your Kalashnikov rifle.
    * Now that you know the address of his secret cave hideout, fill out magazine subscription cards for him for the Wine Spectator and Penthouse. But do not, under any circumstances, send him Popular Mechanics.
    * Order him ten Domino's pizzas with extra ham topping.
    * Correct him when he ends a sentence with a preposition.
    * Ask whether the Taliban gets cable, because you haven't seen "Sex and the City" for weeks.
    * Yank the end of his turban really hard to make him spin around like a top.
    * Switch all the CD's in the jewel boxes in his CD collection, so that when he reaches for Michael Bolton, he'll actually get the Mohammed Rafi.
      Mine his bathroom.
    * Leave business cards for the Israeli Mossad in his Rolodex.
    * Take pictures of all his wives and post them on http://www.AmIhotOrNot.com
    * Ask him if he wears boxers or briefs. Check. Take pictures. Again, post these on http://www.AmIhotOrNot.com
    * Give him a Hot Chicks of Palestine calendar.
    * Ask him if Paradise is different for each person, and whether in your own paradise you'll get to "kick his bellybutton every day for eternity".
    * Refer to him as "Osama-osama-fee-fi-fo-fama bin Laden".
    * Ask whether suicide bombers have to pay union dues.
    * Tell him it's lovely what he's done with his cave, but that it'd look much nicer covered with huge, smoking craters.
    * At dinner, imply that the Northern Alliance has much prettier place settings.
    * Claim you once saw him at a Hooter's in Muncie wearing a yarmulke.
    * Ask him if he wouldn't mind if you opened the door and shined your laser pointer on his forehead for a few minutes.
    * Tell him that this is the worst pyjama party you've ever attended.
    * Ask for some pork rinds and a good brew to wash them down.
    * Ask him if he provides his employees with a 401K plan.
    * Complement him on all his poppies outside, but mention that a few day lilies would be a nice accent.
    * Ask whether the Taliban is hoping to be bombed ahead into the Stone Age, or perhaps the Iron Age if enough shell casings survive.
    * Explain that America is a land of freedom and opportunity, filled with people of every race, religion, and background, including millions of women strong enough to knock the crap out of him.
    * Claim that they serve much better falafel at the public executions in Sudan.
    * Ask him if he's pursuing the Lesser Jihad, the Greater Jihad, or the "Completely Whacked Out of his Freaking Gourd" Jihad.
    * Swirl your drink thoughtfully and mention, "Just think, in a few weeks you might fit in this glass!"
    * Check to see if Saddam is on his speed-dial list.
    * They have to wait a few years to see current television shows in Afghanistan, so give away the secret of who's having a baby on Friends.
    * Warn him that you're "in a New York state of mind."
    * Mention that his wives look quite fetching in their burkas, and ask whether they've ever thought of modelling.
    * Ask him, "say, where do you keep all those Stinger missiles?" just in case he'll be caught off guard and answer correctly.
    * Give him a "noogie" or a "wedgie". If there's actually still a flush toilet left in Afghanistan, give him a "swirlie".*
    * Play a game of Monopoly with him. Make him play the thimble. See if he charges interest. Claim that his properties are your "holy lands" and blow up his hotels.
    * Offer to take him "clubbing" in Tel Aviv with your friends Saul and Ivan.
    * When you leave, wave and say, "Shalom!"

[SOB]

I'm convinced.  Clearly Saddam was the mastermind behind 9/11.

[Debonair]

Free Kevin!!

Smoke Sausages!

[Shamus]

Originally posted by SOB
I'm convinced.  Clearly Saddam was the mastermind behind 9/11.

Not alone, he had a secret meeting with Ali Khamenei and Kim Jong II, they are working on finding those documents as we speak.

shamus