I guess the left will stop complaining about body armor now?

[parker00]

I always thought the complaint was more about the lack of armour on humvee's and such.

[john9001]

humvees were never designed as armored vehicles, thats why they had no armor, when i was in i was assigned a jeep, it did not even have doors, let alone armor.

[GtoRA2]

Originally posted by Stringer
I'm confused....is body armor good now or bad now.....What would Rush do?

Rush the really bad band or Rush the really bad political talk guy?

[indy007]

Originally posted by dread-
And how many have been kept longer than their original obligation?

Presidential Reserve Callup Authority. There is no backdoor draft. Once you sign that piece of paper, you're in for 8 years. You can be called back in to active duty for the duration of that 8, even after the active duty term you signed up for ended. It's all in the contract.

And how does their volunteer status change my question? Did anyone ask if they wanted to come home?

Kind of a stupid question isn't it? You're going to find a very, very small percentage that don't want to come home. Most would want to be with their families. So, does volunteering for duty, but preferring to be home with family, constitute enough motivation for a troop withdrawl? I would hope not.

[indy007]

Originally posted by lazs2
pretty good zorch... course it still won't stop that pesky high powered rifle projectile and..... it didn't exist or was even thought of 5 years ago...  2 years ago there was no examples or prototypes and today there is no viable examples but...  

lazs

Actually an Israeli scientist developed something similiar recently, and it's already moving towards production. Some of the technology has even trickled down to snowboarding. New helmets on the markets are soft beenies, but the compounds in it become intensely rigid when kinetic energy is applied. Combined that with transparent aluminum (posted that awhile back), and you're on your way to rifle resistant body armour.

Unfortunately much of it, including the US liquid treatment solution, are still going to rely on compressability of the body in shock absorbtion. That bullet may not kill you, but it's definately going to ruin your day.

[x0847Marine]

Originally posted by dread-
Anyone give them a choice to come home?

They had the choice to stay home, be lazy, get fat, puff refer and bad mouth the country BEFORE they volunteered.

Besides, how many people can get up and leave thier job because they'd rather be at home?

[dread-]

Originally posted by x0847Marine
They had the choice to stay home, be lazy, get fat, puff refer and bad mouth the country BEFORE they volunteered.

Is that what you think of the people that make up our all volunteer army? Prior to enrolling in the armed forces they were unpatriotic, unmotivated, drug taking Americans?

Interesting sentiment coming from a marine, if you were/are one. I've known a few marines and they didn't share your view, Is your statement empirical or do you have some information you can share? I find it hard to believe that even half of the armed forces are reefer puffers....if you had said zoloft or welbutrin takers, that I'd believe. Actually alcohol is a much more common drug than reefer, and significantly cheaper.

Originally posted by x0847Marine
how many people can get up and leave thier job because they'd rather be at home?

They do all the time, they don't get paid for it either, but I'm sure if the members of our armed forces were allowed to "come home" they might make more than they do now. But you knew that didn't you. Who makes up the majority of BlackWater employees?

[BlueJ1]

Originally posted by bj229r
[
Staff Sgt. Thomas Bain of Buffalo, N.Y., shared concerns about the extra pounds.

 

I know this guy. He was an officer at one of my week long trainings in the winter. That was 3 years ago...? He was leaving for Iraq later that month. Him and the other 3 Marines he brought along were top nouch guys. Definatly put a good impression on me. They taught us fireteam tactics and how to eat a MRE.

Just thought Id share.

[AWMac]

Originally posted by dread-
Is that what you think of the people that make up our all volunteer army? Prior to enrolling in the armed forces they were unpatriotic, unmotivated, drug taking Americans?   You really put a spin on this one... read the dam question before you type.

Interesting sentiment coming from a marine, if you were/are one. I've known a few marines and they didn't share your view, Is your statement empirical or do you have some information you can share? I find it hard to believe that even half of the armed forces are reefer puffers....if you had said zoloft or welbutrin takers, that I'd believe. Actually alcohol is a much more common drug than reefer, and significantly cheaper.   Have you served or are you just huffing and puffing and playing armchair commando?  Still read the question before you type Junior.


They do all the time, they don't get paid for it either, but I'm sure if the members of our armed forces were allowed to "come home" they might make more than they do now. But you knew that didn't you. Who makes up the majority of BlackWater employees?

Were you fed paint chips? What is your point of logic in your questions.  They are volunteers. They knew the risk before they signed up. Live with it.


Mac
U.S. Army Ret.
'75 ~ '95.