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« Reply #495 on: April 07, 2006, 03:10:36 PM »
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Every furball is different.  

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That's a matter of opinion. You can look at the planes around you and know what 3/4 of them are gonna do.

For my taste (not speaking for anyone else, any other squadron, government, religion, enclave, ...) after a few years I found the big furball got tired. I realize that's a corner case - few people here have been (idiot enough to still be) at this as long. But tastes can change with experience.

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« Reply #496 on: April 07, 2006, 03:11:36 PM »
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Perhaps The die hard dog fighting crowd should have a way to grief the bomber guys.  

Every time you shoot down an enemy fighter,  it reduces the bombs available to the enemy.   Shoot down enough fighters and there are no bombs.    

That might have some folks squealing   ;)


Sounds great, impliment this HTC! :aok

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« Reply #497 on: April 07, 2006, 03:14:36 PM »
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One thing you guys need to understand. There is a large group of us who have known each other 15 years or longer thru these games. ...

I know it's hard, with relatively little experience in this genre to understand that this fascination with toolshedding and griefing is a shortlived phase. ...


You're saying this to me?

Are you freakin' kidding?

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« Reply #498 on: April 07, 2006, 03:15:16 PM »
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Furballers would care less about the WAR types if they did not affect logging in and finding a furball and a fight.  FT/TT go a long way to make that a new reality.  No furballers are telling the WAR camp they have to stop trying to win the war.  All we are saying is why cant you go and win the war on the 147 other fields and leave the 3 fields where the furball is alone.  Every thread that is so drenched is telling the furballers to shut up, quit whining and play the WAR game.  Not the other way around.

IMO if the war group actually dropped FHrs when a goon was around I wouldn't mind it as much, but most of the time the WAR buffs see a fight and just go and drop the hangers for no other reason than to stop the fight.


So true, this is the essence of the problem right here. Furballers like to fight, toolshedders like to end the fights. Donut is a great example, the map has 256 fields, but toolshedders ignore the 252 other fields and pork FT dead just to ruin the furbalers fun and garner themselves some apparently needed negative attention...They do this on every map, the oens without a FT they just substitute whichever fields have the best fight and the  most furballers...



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« Reply #499 on: April 07, 2006, 03:18:04 PM »
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If you are not into that then fine win the war.  No furballer wants you guys to stop winning the war.  We just want you to stop ***** up our furballs.  It's that plain and that simple.  If there is a FT/TT stay out of there with your troops and bombers.  Just cause you don't like furballing all the time doesn't mean I have to stop.  But when you guys drop hangers in FT or at good fight then I do have to stop.


Amen brother. How they can't comprehend this very simple concept after it's been re-iterated 50 billion times I can't understand...Sadly, I think we're dealing with some serious mental-midgets here...

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« Reply #500 on: April 07, 2006, 03:20:52 PM »
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I should also mention that the offenders are just as often and maybe more often flying Jabos than they are flying fluffs. To help make Doc's point not all griefrs fly bombers.


I agree there, for every toolshedding FH dropping buff, there's 3 25k pork 'n auger 38/P51/P47 jabo types. I check their sheets, most of those are also bomber pilots however and vice-versa...

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« Reply #501 on: April 07, 2006, 03:25:15 PM »
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You're saying this to me?

Are you freakin' kidding?


Not just you, any and every toolshedder...

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« Reply #502 on: April 07, 2006, 03:33:13 PM »
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Not just you, any and every toolshedder...

Zazen


Dude ... I have been at this since 1987 ... Jokker hired me as a consultant at ICI to bring scenarios to WarBirds ... even now BlueBaron and I are talking about a new venture in the MMOG genre ... if you thought you were arguing with some n00b, guess again.

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« Reply #503 on: April 07, 2006, 03:42:25 PM »
Spying is the worst kind of "griefing" I can imagine.

My Perspective: I am primarily a fighter dweeb I'd say. You'll generally find me trying to figure out a way to lift at a vulched field with the dream of eventually killing all the vulchers off. Sometimes I succeed...

Seems to me the strictly furball contingent is hell bent on "my way or the highway" mode while the toolshedders are more in the "to each his own" frame of mind. At least that's my read after scanning this WHOLE thread.

If you don't like what a given group is doing, make it your mission to stop em. That would make for some intense gameplay if they're having the huge impact that has been implied. I really doubt they're saying "let's go pork this field to piss off the furballers" every time, or anytime, that they plan a mission.

If you're participating in, or condoning spying for any reason, YOU are the scourge of the neiborhood in my book.

These threads come and go as often as the large, organized groups that cause them. Get over it!....
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« Reply #504 on: April 07, 2006, 04:06:51 PM »
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Dude ... I have been at this since 1987 ... Jokker hired me as a consultant at ICI to bring scenarios to WarBirds ... even now BlueBaron and I are talking about a new venture in the MMOG genre ... if you thought you were arguing with some n00b, guess again.


Well, if you talk like and noob and you act like a noob, you're going to get labeled as one. I have never even seen you in-game or even heard of you until this thread. I also never played Warbirds. I see by your sheets you only very, very rarely fly fighters and when you do you are next to useless in one. Do you own a joystick? If you like I can take you to the training arena a few evenings a week and show you how to fight, maybe that is why you get so bored with the game so easily. I'd love to open up fightering to you as an alternate mode of play to toolshedding, maybe that will heighten your enjoyment of the game and make you want to play more...Send me a PM, I'd love to help ya...

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« Reply #505 on: April 07, 2006, 04:37:45 PM »
500 posts?  Sheesh, I aint readin all that.  Sombody summarize it for me please.  or is it the usual.

- post
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- BK's chime in
- whining


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« Reply #506 on: April 07, 2006, 04:38:02 PM »
Lol... like I said a few pages back....

You furballing yet Zazen?  Your idea of "furballing" before was to cherrypick folks already engaged with multiple planes.  

"Why yes, he has a VERY impressive bark for furballer with such a weak pedigree..."

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« Reply #507 on: April 07, 2006, 04:42:42 PM »
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Lol... like I said a few pages back....

You furballing yet Zazen?  Your idea of "furballing" before was to cherrypick folks already engaged with multiple planes.  

"Why yes, he has a VERY impressive bark for furballer with such a weak pedigree..."


I only cherry-pick tater tossing 109s, Urchin. ;) Speaking of which, where have you been lately? Haven't seen you up in FOREVER...:cry Or are you in shades? :noid

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« Reply #508 on: April 07, 2006, 05:07:20 PM »
What does shades mean?

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« Reply #509 on: April 07, 2006, 05:12:44 PM »
To begin with Id like to give a to the 367th for last night fun.

You base taking buff horde dweebs say furballers do the same thing over and over.  Just to prove wrong, I was flying I believe it was a123 then moved over to 122.  I remember DH367th and Kev367th upping and spits and for a few times I cherry picked them until I became coalt after they each upped several times including times at a123 till someone porked the FHs then off to a122.  Was great fun there and all the other bish.  Each time I encountered DH and Kev they changed up their style a little bit to confuse me and giving me a run for my money.  Not once did they fly exactly the same like they did before to prove a point that furballers dont do the same thing over and over.  Me and a few other 475th ended up getting ganged over when we got low and slow but we all had gotten a bunch of kills.  Think I lost another 10 scalps that run.
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