New Orleans Could Take Up To 25 Years to Fully Recover...

[Shuckins]

To Boldy Go...where no infinitive has gone before!


Isn't Google a wonderful thing.  

Regards, Shuckins

[Goth]

Originally posted by Shuckins
...says the White House's Gulf Coast recovery Chief Don Powell.

Many factors beyond the government's control will determine how quickly homeowners and businesses will return to the area and rebuild.

Hate to be harsh, but that is a statement made out of ignorance. Government has messed things up since the beginning. Many homeowners cannot return to rebuild because the government has not updated the flood maps.

Right now a lot of people outside of LA sees the fluff news and hardly gets the real facts. The national news wants to highlight the BS like Mardi Gras when not 5 blocks away a neighborhood stands in ruins like it had been hit with a daisycutter.

I'm still frustrated by government activities and their posturing. It's sad when the mayoral elections of New Orleans take first chair over real issues such as rebuilding.

And don't even get me started on the Corps of Engineers!

[Gunslinger]

Originally posted by Goth
Hate to be harsh, but that is a statement made out of ignorance. Government has messed things up since the beginning. Many homeowners cannot return to rebuild because the government has not updated the flood maps.

Right now a lot of people outside of LA sees the fluff news and hardly gets the real facts. The national news wants to highlight the BS like Mardi Gras when not 5 blocks away a neighborhood stands in ruins like it had been hit with a daisycutter.

I'm still frustrated by government activities and their posturing. It's sad when the mayoral elections of New Orleans take first chair over real issues such as rebuilding.

And don't even get me started on the Corps of Engineers!

Just to play devils advocate here, one of my best friends works in the Army Corps of Engineers.  He cannot WAIT to leave the area because the people are so bad.  They've actually had one guy shot to death and another engineer beaten so badly had had to be airlifted to Texas.  He was telling me that they are almost to the point that when ever they go to work sites they need a security contingent to escort them so the locals don't "interfere" with their work.  

In other words the locals aren't makeing their allready tough job any easier for them.  Sounds alot like what was happening during the huricane releif itself.

[Shuckins]

Goth,

Don't look for New Orleans to be rebuilt in a manner which will allow the poor to return there.  It simply isn't going to happen.

The landlords of the devastated low-income rental housing will have their property dozed and put the land up for upper-crust development.

There is nothing the government can do about that...unless it seizes control of the property.  Lengthy court battles would ensue, with the Supreme Court ultimately striking down the government actions.

Basically, though, an entire city has to be rebuilt, and it's going to take a LOT of time.

Regards, Shuckins

[rabbidrabbit]

its always easier being a victim than being responsible.

[Goth]

Originally posted by Gunslinger
Just to play devils advocate here, one of my best friends works in the Army Corps of Engineers.  He cannot WAIT to leave the area because the people are so bad.  They've actually had one guy shot to death and another engineer beaten so badly had had to be airlifted to Texas.  He was telling me that they are almost to the point that when ever they go to work sites they need a security contingent to escort them so the locals don't "interfere" with their work.  

In other words the locals aren't makeing their allready tough job any easier for them.  Sounds alot like what was happening during the huricane releif itself.

Living in BR and work for the state government, my job entails working with FEMA and the local governments. I haven't heard anything about USACE getting shot at, but in the same breath I would not doubt it. There are some VERY ungrateful people that live down there....and the rest of the country always wondered why we here in LA appear racist. It's not racism, it's dealing with the morons that hamper activities.

And Gun, it's not the average Corps worker, it's the higher ups in DC that can't pull their heads from their collective arse.

[Goth]

Originally posted by Shuckins
Goth,

Don't look for New Orleans to be rebuilt in a manner which will allow the poor to return there.  It simply isn't going to happen.

The landlords of the devastated low-income rental housing will have their property dozed and put the land up for upper-crust development.

There is nothing the government can do about that...unless it seizes control of the property.  Lengthy court battles would ensue, with the Supreme Court ultimately striking down the government actions.

Basically, though, an entire city has to be rebuilt, and it's going to take a LOT of time.

Regards, Shuckins

No Shuckins, I don't expect the majority of the poor to be able to return. I fully expect a better New Orleans. Some of the poor element will return and they will somehow rebuild, but unless the 9th ward returns to federally subsidised housing, I don't see many returning.

This is a chance for New Orleans to be bigger and better than it ever was. I really wish I had property down there like someone else suggested in this thread. The developments and value should go sky high. Hell, I think even the poor that had property handed down to them from generation to generation has a chance to grab that ring and get their golden ticket outta Willy's Chocolate Factory.

[Jackal1]

Originally posted by lasersailor184
Until you understand what happened, and why it happened, history will repeat itself.


There is no amount of levies or Civil Engineering that can withstand the ***NEXT*** hurricane.  And this will continue to be so until every pulls their collective heads out of their collective tulips and understand that nature cannot be controlled or blocked like that.

We have a winner.
Bob, tell the audience what our prizes for today are.
Bob " Weeeelllllll Laser, you and your family can get ready for an all expense paid vacation to beautifull and historic....New Awlins. "

[FUNKED1]

I say we dust off and nuke the site from orbit, its the only way to be sure.

[Gunslinger]

Originally posted by Goth

And Gun, it's not the average Corps worker, it's the higher ups in DC that can't pull their heads from their collective arse.

THAT is something he would agree with.  Of course that's just about every big govt organization.

[lasersailor184]

If you want to build a city below sea level near the ocean, go for it. Just know that God obviously wants that place underwater and he doesn't care if its chocolate, vanilla or neopolitan.

Again, ignorance is bliss.

New Orleans was built on a river delta.  This is just whatever gets washed down the river.  It is prone to change very rapidly in comparison to other forms of erosion.

So the city workers saw that the river was eroding away the banks of New Orleans.  They devised programs to stop the erosion.

It turns out that the erosion also added material to some banks depended upon the flow.  

So in stopping the erosion, the city started to sink.  Once it started to sink, the only thing you can do to save it would be preventative measures that would screw it in the future.

[Gunthr]

Again, ignorance is bliss.

Again?  Did we discuss this before?  

I don't think you will find many banks willing to make loans to people who want  build homes or rebuild a city that is below sea level near the ocean, as in New Orleans.  That is what would be ignorant.  Or stupid?  

Again, try to remember that water seeks the lowest level.  

[Bronk]

Originally posted by Gunthr

 

Again, try to remember that water seeks the lowest level.  

LMOA like most of the posts IN the O'Club.





Bronk

[Holden McGroin]

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Even the Bard split an infinitive.

[Maverick]

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