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Offline bkbandit

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« Reply #15 on: April 04, 2006, 02:02:38 AM »
gimp? where can i find that? is it hard to use?

So if i submit the skin i and they say ok i can use it online?  How does it work? Will i be competiting with 1000 other stang skins? I just want this for my plane.

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« Reply #16 on: April 04, 2006, 02:10:38 AM »
Has to be a historical WWII combat unit skin that meets this  list of criteria.

And we already have a full Pony skin set.
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« Reply #17 on: April 04, 2006, 03:45:32 AM »
That sucks...i though i could hook up my on custom skin on the plane, now i have to be historically correct and submit it in and hope to beat out 100s of others, looks like this is a waste of time. Since i spend enuff time in the 51 i wanted it to look like "my" 51.  why dont htc let us use our on skins online without it being historically correct or submitting it. I want my own paint job

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« Reply #18 on: April 04, 2006, 05:59:26 AM »
1) Historically correct - Well it is a WW2 game, so this makes sense.
2) 100's of others - Naw, just a small group of us, prob less than 10 who do them regularly.
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« Reply #19 on: April 04, 2006, 06:27:49 AM »
that sucks that we cant have custom paint. I have mine alittle less then half done, i want to able to turn off my id but people still noe who i am. I understand you have to be historically correct but you could make yourself crazy makeing it 100% correct.  If we cant customize the skins to our own  personal taste i really dont see the point. Raven did a bad bellybutton 109 and i dont see why if it aint historically correct he shouldnt be able to fly with it. And its funny cause ever since i started this topic i have been looking on the internet at nose art and theres alot of naked women and also to truly be historically correct the absence of the proper nazi markings, the swastika(i understand that there offensive but there where on german planes aswell as american fighters that scored agaisnt them), so with the absence of these images i dont really think you could be 100% correct. My question to htc is "why not let me have my own skins".  As long as there are no curse words or offensive images i dont see the harm in it.  what do you guys think. For the time being ima finish my skin.

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« Reply #20 on: April 04, 2006, 07:11:05 AM »
I think the feeling of immersion would be lost if we were seeing all mater of designs on skins like images of  Budweiser logos or lime green wings ect.

 It would end up looking like the "LAND OF OZ"  around here.


So to maintain some since of  a historical feeling they want the skins to have schemes from that time period. one that actually existed.
 
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« Reply #21 on: April 04, 2006, 07:48:00 AM »
im pretty sure with a couple of guide line it could work. I think the majority wont even bother with it and the ones that do bother a percent of that will be the morons trying to have a solid colored purple spitfire. I pretty sure with certain guide lines it could be done.

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« Reply #22 on: April 04, 2006, 08:51:19 AM »
Skuzzy,

You know that not every plane will have 15 skins right, so why not let the P51-D have more ?



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« Reply #23 on: April 04, 2006, 09:47:25 AM »
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im pretty sure with a couple of guide line it could work. I think the majority wont even bother with it and the ones that do bother a percent of that will be the morons trying to have a solid colored purple spitfire. I pretty sure with certain guide lines it could be done.


Can't because there are ove 3000+ players. The skins already take up about 1.5 megs (think that's what Skuzzy said).  Can you imagine how much 3000+ skins would take up. Find a historical skin you like and make that your own, well if HTC accepts it that is.






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« Reply #24 on: April 04, 2006, 11:17:02 AM »
The point of a skin is that everybody sees it, not only you. Some games allow you to replace the "default" skin on your end so that you see something different. That's not exactly how AH works.

With AH everybody sees the skin you have, and so they have to download it. HTC approves (or rejects) skin submissions, then puts them on the server. They automatically download to players and get put into the skins drop box in the hangar clipboard.

Now, every skin takes up resources. Especially for folks that pre-load textures into memory. If every person had their own outlandish personalized skin and every person were using them, then every player of this game would need something on the order of 5 terabits of RAM just to run the game. A terabit is a thousand GB.

It's just not smart. Not to mention most of these folks are going to take the same base skin and just crudely add guady noseart or add their own name, or bright pink lightning bolts (for the LA7 drivers).

It totally detracts from the environment, the environment can't support it, and at least with HTC approving the skins we have some level of quality control (that is, the skins don't out-and-out suck).

Submitting skins to HTC isn't so much about flying them yourself, it's about providing them for others to fly, in my opinion.

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« Reply #25 on: April 04, 2006, 11:30:50 AM »
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gimp? where can i find that? is it hard to use?

 


If you're a Graphics neophyte, yes.


i dont got enough perkies as it is and i like upen my lancs to kill 1 dang t 34 or wirble its fun droping 42 bombs

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« Reply #26 on: April 04, 2006, 11:37:04 AM »
Besides Bronk's point about 3000+ players, the older, non-updated, 3D models have the ability to use a "transparent" color.  (A text file would hold the id number of the color in your skin's bmp that would be transparent.  The updated models generally do not use this feature but it still might work.) Therefore, players could make their planes invisible.

I see Krusty just posted about some games allowing you to use your own skins in place of the defaults.  This is something that would not work in AH as long as transparent colors are used.  For example, a player could make their wings transparent and improve their view.  Or maybe they could even remove the canopy frame and cockpit giving an even better view.

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« Reply #27 on: April 04, 2006, 11:49:53 AM »
Good points on enhancing your own view, MachNix

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« Reply #28 on: April 04, 2006, 12:24:30 PM »
I think you nailed it Krusty -

I make skins not just for me, but for the use and enjoyment of other players.
In fact a lot of mine are requests.
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« Reply #29 on: April 04, 2006, 09:13:46 PM »
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Besides Bronk's point about 3000+ players, the older, non-updated, 3D models have the ability to use a "transparent" color.  (A text file would hold the id number of the color in your skin's bmp that would be transparent.  The updated models generally do not use this feature but it still might work.) Therefore, players could make their planes invisible.


You don't need a transparent color.  Just save the skins in any format greater than 256 colors, and they're invisible in the game.