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Offline Lye-El

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« Reply #30 on: April 01, 2006, 11:19:06 AM »
This is a link to a letter I posted a few months ago. It is from a crewmember of my Dads tank and is his recollections of Battle of the Bulge.


Letter from my Dads tank crewmember


i dont got enough perkies as it is and i like upen my lancs to kill 1 dang t 34 or wirble its fun droping 42 bombs

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« Reply #31 on: April 01, 2006, 11:55:06 AM »
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However, no stories but something for the psychologists amongst you. . .One would tell his stories, the other never.


I know somewhat of what you mean.  My wife's grandfather was an artillaryman, served in France in '44.  He apparently never told anyone, not even his wife, about any of his combat experiences.  

This makes me "special" in an odd sort of way.  My wife mentioned during a conversation that one of my hobbies was "all that World War Two gaming stuff."  Later that evening, he pulled out a book that was a unit history for his cousin's division, if I remember correctly.  He said his artillary unit was kind of a roving one, never assigned to one division for too long, but it basically followed where his cousin went.

As I paged through the book, he explained that he was proud of the fact that his unit was one of the few that could fire two rounds, one at greater than 45 degrees and the second less than 45 degrees, and be able to do it fast and accurately enough that both rounds hit the ground at the same time in the same area.

I stupidly said something to the effect that he was lucky to be in the artillary and not a footsoldier.  He kind of snorted.  Best I can recall, his next description was this.

"There was this one time we were trying to get the hell out of the way of some Tigers.  We couldn't get one of the trucks started, and it was to my gun, so we were sitting on this road waiting for the truck to get fixed.  Then we hear these squeeky wheels.  We didn't know what to do, and our gun was pointed down the road, so a buddy and me load the thing thinking maybe we could scare them off if they come into sight.

"Sure enough, this Tiger comes around the bend.  Well, he was so dang close my buddy starts angling the gun, and says "I think we can hit it."  I'm telling him "lets get the hell out of here", and he's saying "wait a second".  He fires the gun, and he hit the tank!  Well, of course its a 155, and powerful and all, but no good against a Tiger.  This thing is still coming down the road. My buddy says "reload", and like an idiot I help him do it.  He fires again without aiming, but it's still coming straight down the road, so it hits it again.  This time the Tiger moves to the side a little and drops in a ditch and stops.

"The sargent comes out of his hiding place, looks at me and my buddy, calls us a few names, and then tells us since we're so bright, we should go have a look at the Tiger and make sure the Germans won't cause us any trouble.  We went up there and opened the hatch.  There was nothing wrong with the tank, but the Germans were all dead.  Best we could figure, the concussion from the first round probably killed them.  There was blood coming out of their ears and stuff.  A bunch of kids.  Looked like damn 12 year olds except the one.  Dead, every one of them."

I could see he was kind of upset, so I didn't ask for any more details.  I kick myself now, but I only saw him once or twice after that and never asked to hear any more of his experiences.  He was kind of quiet usually, and I didn't want to "bother" him with a bunch of questions.  Unfortunately, he died a few months later.

That was a couple years ago, and "grandma" has been declining herself ever since.  As her mind slips, she is having trouble remembering what year we are in.  She once told my wife that she "found Harold under the bed again this morning".  After a few puzzled questions, we found out that for a couple years after he got back from the war, almost every night he would actually climb out of bed and crawl under the bed to sleep.  She took to waking him by prodding him with a yardstick because sometimes he would throw punches at her before realizing where he was.  But, times were different then, she never questioned why, just accepted it.  No one went to "head doctors" back then, and a lot of other people were going through similar things, so it was "no big deal" and they just lived with it.

I was told Harold wanted me to have the book he showed me.  Oddly, no one can find it.  "Grandma" says she knows she put it with his other "war stuff", but it is all missing.
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« Reply #32 on: April 01, 2006, 02:46:52 PM »
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847marine,

My Dad was one of those weenie CHP officers.  He was called in (San Diego area), suited up, and was on his way North when they were recalled due to the majority of the fighting having already concluded.  Although I disagree with your assessment of the relative value of the CHP (at least their weapons training involves letting your brass end up on the ground instead of their pockets!) your story is the kind of heroism displayed by many uniformed public servants during the riots.



Its all good banter, the CHP guys tell us "boys wear blue, a man wears tan", we retort with "AAA with a gun infraction police"... but when the poop was hitting the fan, as far as I'm concerned, every CHP offficer is worth his weight in gold...

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« Reply #33 on: April 01, 2006, 08:30:10 PM »
It's all good :)

My Dad did think it was sort of amusing that the CHP were detailed to protect the firemen...  Firemen are always the good guys and protecting the good guys is a total public relations victory.

I bet the PD was pissed about that.  That's even more amusing ;)
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« Reply #34 on: April 02, 2006, 11:13:11 AM »
BBMF Lancaster dropped a dead bloke on me at Northolt once.......
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« Reply #35 on: April 03, 2006, 11:32:35 AM »
True stories - but not war ones...

I bunked off school one day - it must have been during 1974- and was walking to Old Harlow village when, to my absolute amazement, I saw a Vulcan bomber doing loops, Immelmans and lord knows what else. I watched it for about 15 minutes before it flew away. I guessed it must have flown out from Stanstead Airport. It was a tremendous sight (and sound!) - like a one man air-show.

A few years prior to that I got to watch the Battle-of-Britain while at school, well bits of it anyway, as they made the film. I saw spits and Messerscmidts dog-fighting and HE111s flying over pretty low - all being filmed by a brightly painted B25 Mitchell. Later my father took me to Debden airfield where we saw the line up of remaining (ex-Spanish I believe) HE111s on the runway.

I wish I'd had a camera.
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« Reply #36 on: April 03, 2006, 12:22:39 PM »
My grandfather was in WW2 he was a sherman tank commander, well at 1st. They were fighting the battle of the bulge and the germans  were looking for fuel, once night abunch of german soldiers came into  there camp to steal fuel, he woke up and a german soldier pointed a gun at his head and didn't kill him because it would have woken everyone else up, he said they just left all of a sudden, didn't find any fuel or anything apparantly but I thought that was pretty cool, the guy didn't shoot him. Also he was a commander until the Africa campaign was over, when they got to Europe there unit was in reserve and they had come across a bunch of whine and liquor, he said the bottles fit perfect down the barrel of the tank cannon, so they loaded it up with liquor and his CO came by and saw it and busted him down in rank, when there unit went back out to the front he was quickly  appointed again... He always had great story's, he constantly told me what a hunk of junk the sherman was and that it was basically a tin can lol. Basically there main fight was to camoflouge there tanks and ambush the pnzr units, they would put mines that they made themselves out where they thought the pnzr's would show up and track em. He said basically that was the only way to defeat them. The man could talk about every single thing that happened during the war, but says the worst part for him was seeing all of the holocaust victims in the camps when we finally won, he can barely even speak about it

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« Reply #37 on: April 03, 2006, 01:43:17 PM »
Just finished reading EB Sledge's book With The Old Breed . I cried.

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« Reply #38 on: April 03, 2006, 01:53:08 PM »
More than one time I came back from a mission and the bar was CLOSED.


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« Reply #39 on: April 04, 2006, 04:22:41 AM »
No major stories here although I was also in Germany from 87-90 3rd Armored Division 58th AMC (changed a few times while I was there) in Hanau Germany Flieglehorst Casern. And yes many stories from Graffenware (sp) to Hoenfelds (sp) Jan-feb 88.  Fricken coldest I ever been but watching the A-10's, M-1's, Bradleys and all other vehicles fire was extremely cool.

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« Reply #40 on: April 04, 2006, 12:35:00 PM »
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My grandfather was in WW2 he was a sherman tank commander


 but says the worst part for him was seeing all of the holocaust victims in the camps when we finally won, he can barely even speak about it


Hmm...was he in the 10th Armored Division? They were the first to come upon one of the camps.


i dont got enough perkies as it is and i like upen my lancs to kill 1 dang t 34 or wirble its fun droping 42 bombs

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« Reply #41 on: April 04, 2006, 10:46:34 PM »
Before coming to the USA in 1992 I am originally from Czechoslovakia. I served in army forces during the cold war in position of sniper attached to special territorty security units. I cannot claim any great heroism but I did have an intersting story once.  

About 7 years before I escaped to America I was in the 2nd Guard's Army brigade in a postion in the very werstern part of my country overlloking over the barbed wire fences which were there to keep out starving germans who wanted a better life in our socilist paradise. It was understandable, but I could not anyone pass - I was ordered to shoot and to kill. Thankfully I never did have to kill. However one day a group of capitalist soldiers came to the fence on a secret mission to spy on our advanced defences and minefields. All was routine, we knew they came often and we did not shoot at them too much. But this one man insulted us greatly. He approached the border urinated on our sacred soil. This was intollerable so I took aim, very careful aim for it was a small target and I hit just as he urinated.

The whole thing was very embarassing to the america forces and was covered up by awarding the usa soldiers heroic medals. I hope the poor man survived, but I had to do what I yhad to do in defense of my country.

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« Reply #42 on: April 06, 2006, 08:46:49 AM »
not sure what unit he was in, next time I see my grandmother I'll look at 1 of his medals and get the unit