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Offline nirvana

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« Reply #15 on: April 05, 2006, 12:17:30 PM »
Is 7,500 yards far enough away to get away from the nuclear blast if they so choose to go that route?  Or is it just Dying in the name of Allah again?
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« Reply #16 on: April 05, 2006, 12:25:47 PM »
They're gone nuts.
Just yesterday I saw on the news (reuters) an Iranian attack boat. Like the Russian ones it floats on the ground effect, - so it's neither a boat nor an aircraft.
More difficult to spot on radar than aircraft and as a boat, - does some 100 mph....
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« Reply #17 on: April 05, 2006, 12:49:58 PM »
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i doubt seriously they can deploy this.. and if they do attack a CBG with one the immediate and devestatingly overwhelming response will open a new page in the liberal history books about how unfair americans play at war.


Hang, they depoly it to defend. There is now one known and working aggressor in Gulf area, and it's not Iran.

Or you mean there will be another "Maine" or Tonkin bay?... It seems to me that it will be quite difficult to fool the whole world again.

BTW, did they show an Iranian "ekranoplan" in the same news? Here TV shows their "flying boat" more then torpedo.
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« Reply #18 on: April 05, 2006, 12:53:34 PM »
Looks like cold war is rehashing. Russians love to test their new tech on Iran against coalition troops.
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« Reply #19 on: April 05, 2006, 12:53:42 PM »
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They're gone nuts.


There is one nation that have gone nuts, and, unfortunately, the only thing that can protect a souverign nation from being democratically "bombed into stone age" is nuclear weapons posession :(

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Just yesterday I saw on the news (reuters) an Iranian attack boat. Like the Russian ones it floats on the ground effect, - so it's neither a boat nor an aircraft.
More difficult to spot on radar than aircraft and as a boat, - does some 100 mph....


So they showed this in the West too, thanks!
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« Reply #20 on: April 05, 2006, 12:54:53 PM »
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russia claimed to have that 2-3 years ago, {gee i wonder how iran got it?}

it works by somehow cavitating the water so it "flys" through a pocket of air. must give off one big sonar signal.


2-3 years ago? Are you really so naive?
Shkval is in service from 1977. That time it had only 150 KT nuclear warhead.  Later it was updated to use conventional warhead (210 kg). Shkval is exporting in conventional warhead variant from 1992.
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« Reply #21 on: April 05, 2006, 12:59:33 PM »
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I think the Polaris uses the same concept - the missile flies through an airbubble until it reaches the surface.  Looks like Iran's technology is about, oh, 25 years behind ours!


they are not even remotly similar. 25 years behind you say? I dont think so
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« Reply #22 on: April 05, 2006, 01:02:34 PM »
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Looks like cold war is rehashing. Russians love to test their new tech on Iran against coalition troops.


Rehashing? Do you seriously think it was over?

"on Iran against coalition troops"?! Elaborate please.

How American, to balme Russia for all the trouble you got because of the stupidity of your own democratically elected leaders.
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« Reply #23 on: April 05, 2006, 01:12:19 PM »
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Is 7,500 yards far enough away to get away from the nuclear blast if they so choose to go that route?  Or is it just Dying in the name of Allah again?


I don't think, that Islam was a main idea in construction bureau.
Torpedo working on super-cavitation principals can have only one target. Aircraft carrier in order or submarine with nukes in start position.
The kill of these targets compensates Shkval carriers death.
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« Reply #24 on: April 05, 2006, 01:32:17 PM »
Boroda.. Estel.. slow day in commie-land?

Cheer up gents.. we're not in the least concerned with being right, and we could care less whats in your history books. Yes, Imperial America is on the March and we will Democracize the animal world, including Iran, and make the middle east safe and profitable for the global corporations even if we have to nuke 'em to convince 'em it's the only right and sensible thing to do.

*BOOM*

Free at last!
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« Reply #25 on: April 05, 2006, 01:39:03 PM »
What I find so funny is that people assume that since they have these "horrible" weapons, that they could be used effectively.

Example..ASW in the persian gulf is almost impossible due to the fact it's so shallow...that works both ways meaning a sub has just as much trouble tracking and targeting..So a torpedo with no target is useless.

Then you are talking about Iran. Sure they have nice weapons..but are not proficient in using them. ..Sure they can lay mines (takes no skill) and attack unarmed merchant ships. But they have never attempted to use any kind of REAL weapon against anybody.

Just a bunch of sabre rattling. They never learn. look up Operation Praying Mantis...and we did that just to retaliate for a mined Frigate.
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« Reply #26 on: April 05, 2006, 01:48:47 PM »
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But they have never attempted to use any kind of REAL weapon against anybody.


So Iran is not a real threat then
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« Reply #27 on: April 05, 2006, 01:56:31 PM »
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So Iran is not a real threat then


Judging by their abysmal performance in Operation Praying Mantis, i'd agree with ASTAC's conclusion. Even considering it was loiterial operation, which is not what a blue water navy is good at (even today) - in the US case.
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« Reply #28 on: April 05, 2006, 01:57:07 PM »
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So Iran is not a real threat then


As far as trying to use their AAW, ASW, or SUW weapons..no I don't think they are. They do however have missiles and are constantly working on increasing the range of those missiles, so if they were to get nukes, then yes they are a threat. In my mind though they don't become a threat until they can reach the US with a missile. Frankly I don't care about Israel (or anybody else in the middle east), Europe, or any of our asian allies.
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« Reply #29 on: April 05, 2006, 01:57:10 PM »
Sure it is, Nils.. they wanna build a bomb. We wanna drop one.

Everybody's happy!

happy, happy, joy, joy,.... *BOOM*

Wallah, a new Democracy!
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