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« Reply #60 on: April 21, 2006, 08:41:26 AM »
nielsen... are you saying that no one has ever been jailed for not paying their TV tax?

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« Reply #61 on: April 21, 2006, 08:49:59 AM »
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nielsen... are you saying that no one has ever been jailed for not paying their TV tax?

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not here as far as i know. a bill is a bill

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« Reply #62 on: April 21, 2006, 08:54:32 AM »
you are talking about in england tho right?  seems I had read about some woman who was jailed a few years back.   What do they do in england if they catch you?

What if you don't pay the "bill" (tax)?   I mean... it is your TV and you are simply turning it on.  How is a TV different from a radio say in that it captures a signal that is in the air.... the air that belongs to everyone?

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« Reply #63 on: April 21, 2006, 09:07:50 AM »
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you are talking about in england tho right?  seems I had read about some woman who was jailed a few years back.   What do they do in england if they catch you?

What if you don't pay the "bill" (tax)?   I mean... it is your TV and you are simply turning it on.  How is a TV different from a radio say in that it captures a signal that is in the air.... the air that belongs to everyone?

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i will have to leave that up to a brit. i think i hear beetle comming along


over here you would not get jailed

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« Reply #64 on: April 21, 2006, 09:12:40 AM »
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Hehe. Not a prob. All in fun.
Not having such a great day myself.


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« Reply #65 on: April 21, 2006, 10:03:06 AM »
An old brit show called "The goodies".. was cool.

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« Reply #66 on: April 22, 2006, 05:39:57 AM »
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you are talking about in england tho right?  seems I had read about some woman who was jailed a few years back.   What do they do in england if they catch you?

What if you don't pay the "bill" (tax)?   I mean... it is your TV and you are simply turning it on.  How is a TV different from a radio say in that it captures a signal that is in the air.... the air that belongs to everyone?
Lazs, we've done this to death in other threads. I could post a link to the TV licensing website which describes the penalties for nonpayment of the TV licence fee. It's a maximum fine of £1000, but a fine of £150 is more typical. There is no jail sentence.

However, if you were to disobey a Court Order to pay the fine, you would be in contempt of Court. That is an entirely different offence. You would be given every chance to rethink your position, but if you resolutely refused to comply with the Court's order to pay up and could not show a case of financial hardship, you might get a short jail sentence - something like 2 weeks. But look on the bright side -  you'd have TOD to look forward to, after your release.

For those interested, this whole business was discussed in the Mydavis thread - http://www.hitechcreations.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=169122 - I can't be arsed to type it all out again here. :rolleyes:

As to the cost of the licence, at £126.50 a year or £10/month (=$18 USD/month) it's exceptional value. If you would look to this thread, in which American guys are discussing their cable TV costs, you'll see that many are paying $100 every month! :eek: One guy in there pays over $150 every month!! :O

And, before any smart alec asks how man channels I get, I don't equate the number of channels available to the quality of service. I agree with Dowding. I watch the 5 main channels, and for a small one-time fee I could get a decoder box which, I believe, would open up about 30 additional channels. I even have a satellite dish (put there by previous house owner) but I don't use it.

Lazs, the British way is the best way. We have more choices. Over there, you either pay your cable fee, or else you get no TV, or one channel with lousy reception, which is what I got in Concord, some 34 miles from where you live now. But here, we have a third alternative: We can watch TV and not pay the licence fee, taking that chance that we won't get found out! Go on, admit it, Lazs. That's the option you'd like best - kind of like not wearing your seatbelt, you chancer! ;) :lol

Skuzzy, PLEASE don't clip this one! Or we'll never get Lazs, jackal et al to understand! I've been nice this time. :) :) :cool:

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« Reply #67 on: April 22, 2006, 05:49:02 AM »
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Over there, you either pay your cable fee, or else you get no TV, or one channel with lousy reception


"Over There" was a series on Iraq. :)

From where I am I can throw up a 20 buck antenna and get 11 channels crystal clear. With a rotor I can get more.
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« Reply #68 on: April 22, 2006, 05:54:12 AM »
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"Over There" was a series on Iraq. :)

From where I am I can throw up a 20 buck antenna and get 11 channels crystal clear. With a rotor I can get more.
I wasn't talking to you, I was talking to Lazs. By "over there", I was referring to Concord, a town that Lazs knows and is less than 40 miles from where he lives. Owing to the surrounding high terrain I could get only ONE tv channel. You're not privy to this conversation, so p... er, go forth and urinate.
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« Reply #69 on: April 22, 2006, 06:11:37 AM »
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I wasn't talking to you, I was talking to Lazs.  


Yea, but I was talking to you. :)


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You're not privy to this conversation


I think you will notice that is not correct. :rofl

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so p... er, go forth and urinate.


Constipation or something else? :D
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« Reply #70 on: April 22, 2006, 10:04:27 AM »
beet...  the government finds you in contempt of court for not paying a fee by.... A "private" company?  you are saying that your BBC is a private company?   You are ok with debtors prison?

your way is far worse.   you have to pay no matter what... there are no alternatives but to risk having your government throw you in jail if you don't pay.

Here... we can grab programs out of the air for free or pay and watch any program in the world.   We can also steal the service with an illegal hookup if that is what you would like to do.  

I would not do that because that is simply dishonest and can't be rationalized.  They provide a service and charge to hook it up to your TV.

We are right back where we allways were... the "fee" is a tax and the government enforces it for the BBC.

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« Reply #71 on: April 22, 2006, 11:18:35 AM »
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We are right back where we allways were... the "fee" is a tax and the government enforces it for the BBC.
We're only back there because you never read/assimilate material that's been put before you, but instead persist with your "TV tax" troll. If you REALLY want to know about the history of the BBC, go to the BBC website at http://www.bbc.co.uk instead of busting my chops about it. In there, you will find everything you could possibly wish to know - how the company was set up, how it developed, how the licence fee is spent. I've already provided links explaining what happens if you get caught without a licence. I'm not going to type it all out again.

All I know is I'd rather pay £10 a month for the tv licence than $150 a month to a cable company, which is exactly what some Americans are doing, as you would see if you followed the links I provided.

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« Reply #72 on: April 22, 2006, 11:31:56 AM »
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We're only back there because you never read/assimilate material that's been put before you, but instead persist with your "TV tax" troll. If you REALLY want to know about the history of the BBC, go to the BBC website at http://www.bbc.co.uk instead of busting my chops about it. In there, you will find everything you could possibly wish to know - how the company was set up, how it developed, how the licence fee is spent. I've already provided links explaining what happens if you get caught without a licence. I'm not going to type it all out again.

All I know is I'd rather pay £10 a month for the tv licence than $150 a month to a cable company, which is exactly what some Americans are doing.


"Some Americans" being the key word. I pay nowhere near that for cable. For those that are doing it, they are doing it by choice for extended entertainment. Same as renting DVDs, etc. Big difference.

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as you would see if you followed the links I provided.


If all your links were actualy followed, the intardnet would come to a grinding halt. Google has a brown out every time you participate in a thread. :rofl
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« Reply #73 on: April 22, 2006, 11:50:21 AM »
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If all your links were actualy followed, the intardnet would come to a grinding halt. Google has a brown out every time you participate in a thread.
Oh I wouldn't worry about that. There's no chance of the end user submitting that many hits because of limitations created by their own service providers. Where I live, I get a 1MBit connection. In Scandinavia, 10MBit is possible, so yes - if everyone had a connection like that, there could be bandwidth problems.

But in certain backward areas, they still have.... d-d-d-d-dialup! :rofl  
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"Some Americans" being the key word. I pay nowhere near that for cable. For those that are doing it, they are doing it by choice for extended entertainment. Same as renting DVDs, etc. Big difference.
I looked at that cable cost whine thread again, and out of about 25 people who replied, I counted 8 who were paying $80/mo or more. Plus there were many others who were paying far more than I pay.

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« Reply #74 on: April 22, 2006, 12:43:12 PM »
Beet, you're not stupid enough to believe that the programming available in the U.S. for $80 - $150 is comparable to the programming received in the U.K. for $10 license fee.  Comparing apples to oranges in a failed attempt to prove your point, you're either trolling or you've momentarily slipped your head up your ass.
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