Author Topic: Team or individual game (Read 4967 times)

Toad · « **Reply #105 on:** May 01, 2006, 03:34:09 PM »

You missed what he said.

"Better" can be viewed from several angles.

I'm sure HTC thinks more paying customers is "better" no matter what results. If they could get 15,000 people who only drove jeeps, but paid their bill every month, they'd probably see that as better.

OTOH, it'd be a truly suxxor air combat game if 99% of the arena was driving a jeep at any given moment.

I think WW2OL claims to have many more thousands of customers than AH; does that make it a "better" air combat game?

I'm sure Everquest has many more thousands of customers; does that make it a "better" game?

Panzzer · « **Reply #106 on:** May 01, 2006, 03:41:19 PM »

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Originally posted by Toad
I think WW2OL claims to have many more thousands of customers than AH; does that make it a "better" air combat game?

No, it doesn't. I tried the free trial in february, still didn't like it (I've tried it before too - in 2003 or 2004). While it might have better ground war than AH, it just doesn't seem to be my game, not as much fun as AH. But that's just my opinion...

lazs2 · « **Reply #107 on:** May 02, 2006, 08:03:45 AM »

how bout all the dungeons and dragons role playing games kev.... are they "better"? better for who?

team play in AH means killing buildings and fighting over the one con stupid enough to be there with your other twenty "team" players and.... still taking five minutes to kill the poor sap.

individual play means lots of decent fights..

some pretend to like the former and some admit to likeing the latter.

The little generals all have one thing in common.... when they meet an equal or superior force of another little general... they run away... they forget all about the fields they "had to have" and go run away to another part of the map with a big green bar and a tiny little red one... and give orders "strafe down that last FH!!!" once again..

buncha little jerkoffs.

lazs
Public Relations Officer for the BK's

wipass · « **Reply #108 on:** May 02, 2006, 08:28:27 AM »

If all you want to do

is fight other single engine fighters and not have any of "your" FH's killed then it's pretty simple, petition HT for an arena without towns or other land targets. You would have exactly what you wanted except for one thing, it would be empty !

Without the land grabbing elements of the main arena you wouldn't have any targets to practice shooting your cartoon cannon or bullets at cartoon aircraft.

wipass

Hap · « **Reply #109 on:** May 02, 2006, 08:39:48 AM »

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you wouldn't have any targets to practice shooting your cartoon cannon or bullets at cartoon aircraft.wipass

~~hap~~

2bighorn · « **Reply #110 on:** May 02, 2006, 08:55:45 AM »

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blah...blah...Without the land grabbing elements...blah...blah

You'd be better off playing monopoly... single player mode... so nobody can steal your real estate...

Look Ma, I scared watermelon outta FH!

Toad · « **Reply #111 on:** May 02, 2006, 09:05:09 AM »

Like Laz I've always failed to see the fun in joining 20 "teammates" and attacking 5 enemies.

But hey.... whatever blows your skirt up.

wipass · « **Reply #112 on:** May 02, 2006, 09:07:31 AM »

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Originally posted by Toad
Like Laz I've always failed to see the fun in joining 20 "teammates" and attacking 5 enemies.

But hey.... whatever blows your skirt up.

But using your past arguments and logic it would appear you would enjoy being on the side of the 5 being attacked by 20.

Would that not be the case ?

wipass

Toad · « **Reply #113 on:** May 02, 2006, 09:31:13 AM »

I pretty much was all last night. I don't mind it as I can usually get 1 or 3 before they get me. There's no denying that it helps improve your SA and gives you the opportunity to work on effective snap shooting.

It's certainly not the best action the game offers, however.

No matter which end of it you are on.

Unless, of course, you are a hordewarrior satisfied with getting a 1/5 of a kill/assist because there's no other way you can get any piece at all. Oh wait... the outhouses don't move or shoot back, so you can always hammer them.

mars01 · « **Reply #114 on:** May 02, 2006, 09:33:17 AM »

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Without the land grabbing elements of the main arena you wouldn't have any targets to practice shooting your cartoon cannon or bullets at cartoon aircraft.

No it would be more like the early days of AH, where people fought each other in the air. The skill level was much higher and the Fighter pilots didn't run every time they were reversed, they fought their way out. As far as I am concerned the land grab game has only degradeded gameplay.

Last night was a perfect example. One of the best maps up, FesterMA and it was all hored pushing up the coast where the bases are farther apart and less of a defense could be mounted.

I was one of the stupid pilots Laz was reffering to. If you wanted to fight you had to fight the horde. Turning with 4 guys starting to get position and in comes 4 more guys. No big deal, but they were all Hoing, no one even looking for the six shot, all trying to beat their teammates to the kill.

Completely lame, completely skilless. I was amazed at some of the better sticks that were doing it too. You would think the better guys would have hit another base to start a fight parallel to the Horde where they might get a better fight, but it wasn't the case. They just piled on with the noobs.

Oh well such is life in the MA and AH. We have surpassed technology but not human nature. God I can't wait for TOD/CT to be finished.

wipass · « **Reply #115 on:** May 02, 2006, 09:51:51 AM »

toad,

With respect, I can't see what you are looking for. In an ideal arena what would you want to see happen ? more one on one ?

Even if you removed all buildings and also all aircraft that could toss a bomb you would still see the hord mentality in action, a large green bar and a small red bar.

mars,

In effect you are saying that gameplay has had the effect of reducing the skill level of the players. In that you may be right as those that don't want to or can't get a grip on the nuances of ACM are able to opt out of ACM completely and use other methods to enjoy AH. That's a valid point, however as HTC have included other methods to play AH rather than just "fighters" then you, me and everyone else have to simply get out of the game what we can.

Regards

wipass

mars01 · « **Reply #116 on:** May 02, 2006, 09:57:56 AM »

Yeah Wip,

I agree, but what you are seeing on these boards more and more are people not being able to get what they can out of this game except Hording, timid fights all compounded by a lot of small things that since the start of TOD/CT have all piled up into one large thing and that is a Suck Arse MA and horrid gameplay.

Toad · « **Reply #117 on:** May 02, 2006, 10:08:18 AM »

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Originally posted by wipass
toad,

With respect, I can't see what you are looking for. In an ideal arena what would you want to see happen ? more one on one ?

wipass

The game as it was immediately post-beta was probably it's highest point.

In short, I'm looking for what Mars, Laz, Slap and a lot of others are looking for. Air combat.

There's presently a dearth of it.

thndregg · « **Reply #118 on:** May 02, 2006, 10:18:31 AM »

Well, it works for HiTech. ($$$)

It works to satisfy everyone's style of play.

Because of that simple fact, ranting on and on and on and on and on is not changing HiTech's approach to satify all players. It hasn't changed so far in the (only) two short years I've played.

mars01 · « **Reply #119 on:** May 02, 2006, 10:26:13 AM »

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Well, it works for HiTech. ($$$)

It works to satisfy everyone's style of play.

Because of that simple fact, ranting on and on and on and on and on is not changing HiTech's approach to satify all players. It hasn't changed so far in the (only) two short years I've played.

"It works to satisfy everyone's style of play." Uhh no it doesn't see that's where the problem is. But you gotta get your head out of the sand first to see the problem.

You have a whole two years, congrats you must be right me, Toad, Lazs and the myrid of other posters all looking for an AtoA combat game are all making this stuff up LOLH.