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Offline LePaul

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For anyone who thinks Buffs are overmodeled
« Reply #45 on: May 01, 2006, 08:45:23 PM »
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Hmm, you said people here are whining because they're getting killed by bombers because they don't use the correct tactics.  I asked you to say who doesn't use the proper tactics in killing buffs (if there really is one).  How would you know who uses slashing attacks or who just flies up a buffs 6 guns blazing?  And then you respond with this?  Get you head out of the sand buddy, you miss the point of this thread and the things being discussed in it entirely.


So tell me, are you one of those guys who climbs on a buff's dead six, starts spraying at 2k out and then are *shocked* that the buff tears you apart?

Because in all seriousness, I see that a lot.  From noobs and older players too.  They just slowly sit on a bombers dead 6, or in a steady climb into the buff...and get torn apart.  Some bombers are tougher than others.  B26s are fast and pretty salamanderly thanks to great gun coverage, much like the B24.  Lancs are a cinch, come from below and shoot off their wingtip.  That's all you need to do, they'll spiral and break apart.  Ju88s, for having a measly definsive guns (more like Nerf darts) have amazing armor and can take a huge amount of punishment.

Ar234s, well, once you catch up to one, they are pretty easy prey.

I fly P-38s and bombers most, I just think its funny how a bad attack is almost always the defenders fault.  Seldom do people fess up to having a bad plan.  That's all.

Offline Stang

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« Reply #46 on: May 01, 2006, 11:32:52 PM »
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So tell me, are you one of those guys who climbs on a buff's dead six, starts spraying at 2k out and then are *shocked* that the buff tears you apart?

Because in all seriousness, I see that a lot.  From noobs and older players too.  They just slowly sit on a bombers dead 6, or in a steady climb into the buff...and get torn apart.  Some bombers are tougher than others.  B26s are fast and pretty salamanderly thanks to great gun coverage, much like the B24.  Lancs are a cinch, come from below and shoot off their wingtip.  That's all you need to do, they'll spiral and break apart.  Ju88s, for having a measly definsive guns (more like Nerf darts) have amazing armor and can take a huge amount of punishment.

Ar234s, well, once you catch up to one, they are pretty easy prey.

I fly P-38s and bombers most, I just think its funny how a bad attack is almost always the defenders fault.  Seldom do people fess up to having a bad plan.  That's all.
You proved my point for me.  Like I said, you have no idea how anyone who's posted here attacks a buff, so your comment, like I said, was out of your ass.  And no, I don't attack buffs from the rear, usually headon or at angles from the side.

Btw Kev, I was just trying to get a rise out of you.

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For anyone who thinks Buffs are overmodeled
« Reply #47 on: May 02, 2006, 12:43:37 AM »
Only time I have a hard time catching buffs is taking off when they are overhead at 20K+.  Better to leave a field way ahead of them to be in place when they get there or leave you in a better chase position.

I have never had a problem with them out running me once at their altitude.

I don't have much problem with them gunning me at 1.5K either, because I dont sit 1.5K out waiting for my speed to build.

Sometimes I do get antsy and go in on their 6 for the quick kill and get chopped up, but that's my fault, certainly not due to any overmodelling.

If this game were modelled to be truely realistic, a good majority of the people playing would never even be able to get off the ground, much less worry about catching anything.

I suspect some folks here wouldn't be satisfied if their targets were big boxes that couldn't maneuver or fight back.

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« Reply #48 on: May 02, 2006, 02:07:48 AM »
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I suspect some folks here wouldn't be satisfied if their targets were big boxes that couldn't maneuver or fight back.
Well, considering the vast majority play the toolshed game in this very manner (those FH's really fight back hard), you might be wrong.

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