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« on: May 07, 2006, 12:38:19 AM »
British body style, American(ish) motor and built by Germans. Could it possibly be better?


http://www.exoticcarsite.com/pages/tuners/weineck-cobrao780-cui-limited-edition-2005.htm


I don't think so!

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Bad Gandersheim, Germany, is a small village in the middle of nowhere which people normally visit to go for a cure. The only sound you normally hear in this area is the bell of the church reminding you to attend the mass on Sundays. At the same time, Bad Gandersheim is the home of Weineck Engineering, manufacturer of the world‘s most powerful, strongest and best accelerating road-legal car. It is the place of pilgrimage for the disciples of the combustion engine in search of salvation. Once arrived at the place of worship, tension will rise, resulting in high blood pressure and sweating. That’s quite a usual reaction seeing that, even after having driven all cars called supercars, one knows that what is going to happen will be a new chapter in the never-ending search of the greatest of all times. After ringing the bell, the doors to the holy shrine open, allowing a sneak peak of the silhouette of THE ULTIMATE.

Devoutly approaching THE ULTIMATE, the unmatchable finishing quality of this unique, hand built masterpiece becomes apparent. Highly visible: The gigantic air-scoop of the engine bonnet. Air scoops can be seen anywhere to show off, but here it is really a technical necessity since this air scoop and the engine bonnet cover a world-unique masterpiece of technical genius with a cylinder capacity of 780 cui (or 12.9L), the heart of THE ULTIMATE. It’s a very exclusive, rare opportunity to be able to witness the awakening of something you never dreamt of even in your wildest dreams…
The first turn of the key activates the gigantic high-pressure fuel pump. To tromp and release the accelerator pedal means: more than half a litre of finest nutrition (fuel) have arrived inside the ultra high-performance carburettor system to feed the devil.
The next turn activates the gigantic starter motor to spin the crankshaft resulting in a big bang and immediate, stable idle at around 1,000rpm. From now on, there’s only one talking: the devil (or your best friend!) himself!

The awakening alone is something you’ll never forget in your lifetime. From now on, any form of human conversation is impossible! For anxious, non-addicted human beings it will already mark the end of their journey where ours now begins. Being aware of the absence of any driving aids of the digital era like ASR, ESP, ABS etc., the first gear is now engaged. Slowly releasing the clutch, THE ULTIMATE starts moving very smoothly.

Dr. Jekyll. All high mech used in this unique piece of machinery works perfectly from the first metres driven. You can really drive THE ULTIMATE for a relaxed warm-up of all fluids and tyres, just like any usual supercar. The change of gears at low rpm is smooth and the devil under the bonnet is still friendly, but, of course, always trying to spin (and keep spinning!) the wheels. After 15-20 km the temperature of the tyres and fluids are at normal operating level. Even up to 4,000 rpm, the Weineck Cobra 780 cui Limited Edition accelerates faster than any other supercar when fully driven. The accelerator pedal always has to be operated very gently and with respect.
You always need r-e-s-p-e-c-t to stay friends with this machine!!!

Mr. Hyde. Words cannot describe what will happen if you want to experience the full potential of this ULTIMATE driving machine. There is just no comparison with anything ever built to be used on the road!!! The engine gains rpm like a pure race car engine. That’s normally already impressive, but bearing in mind that what propels you has nearly 3 litres (the total capacity of e.g. a BMW 330i!) – more capacity than the biggest and strongest of all powerboat engines ever built…
What happens above 5,000rpm (the engine delivers its world record torque of 1,760 Nm at 5,600rpm) is too much for human vocabulary. It’s more like Sol 5 on Starship Enterprise! You feel like being in a time machine with corners approaching so fast that you just won’t believe it. From now on, your brain and body have to work at maximum speed. Otherwise it is better not to enter this world…
Now you know what the Donohue style of driving really is…
The rev. limiter is set to cut in at 8,000 rpm (the engine reaches its maximum power of, 1,100 hp at 7,000 rpm), and the gears have to be changed at 7,000 on the gauge, otherwise you already hit the limiter (the engine revs faster than the classic Smith instrument can follow!). The insane, highly-addictive (words like e.g. sound, noise, music cannot describe what is meant here created by this devil greedily soaking up all air and fuel in its surroundings and afterwards coughing out the waste of it through the side pipes under the doors at insane velocity) mechanical orchestra plays works never heard before…
A car mainly lives from its engine! After experiencing this one, yes, it’s true!!!

From 0-300 km/h in just 10 seconds!!!

That is, of course, not only possible by using the strongest, naturally aspirated engine ever built for a road car. We also know: Power is nothing without control! That’s why the Weineck Cobra 780 cui Limited Edition is being built using a MIG welded, self-supporting tubular frame (diameter = 4”) to absorb very high torsion forces created by the engine. Additionally, its body is deep drawn from carbon composite materials for maximum rigidity. Single wheel suspension including a continuously variable coil spring system (all suspension parts are made of highest quality aluminium and titanium!) in conjunction with a specially engineered high-performance brake system (based on Brembo components) with internally ventilated, punched brake discs (front and rear axle) controlled by an arm of balance system guarantees an individual set-up suiting individual driver’s preferences resulting in high-precision driving (and braking) quality for highest active safety.

On the front axle, the Weineck Cobra 780 cui Limited Edition is equipped with special Weineck 3-piece 18” wheels and intermediate tyres of the dimension 255/40 ZR18. On the rear axle, tyres of the size 315/35 ZR18 are fitted. The 4-speed extra high-performance gearbox, driveshafts and rear axle (equipped with a 75% limited slip differential) are designed for more than 2,000Nm of torque! The interior of the Weineck Cobra 780 cui Limited Edition will be designed individually to meet any customer’s wishes. Normally, finest British leather is being used for the upholstery of the seats. All colours, piping’s and sewing’s can be individually chosen. The rest of the passenger compartment is finished by using velours carpets. For the dashboard, classic Smith instruments are being used. In case of rain, the car is equipped with a soft top to protect both the driver and the interior. If requested, a fixed hardtop is also available.

Each unit of the Weineck Cobra 780 cui Limited Edition is a unique masterpiece of German Engineering.

All products used to build a Weineck Cobra 780 cui Limited Edition are engineered and produced by Weineck in Bad Gandersheim, Germany. With a weight-to-power ratio of 0.9Kg/hp, 12.9 litres of engine capacity, 1,100hp and 1,760Nm of torque we can only say: If the modern times bore you to death and all the money in the world won’t help: Don’t worry, don’t kill yourself, here is the cure for any such diseases!!! One thing, for sure, isn’t true: I can’t get no satisfaction… That was before the birth of the Weineck Cobra 780CUI Limited Edition!!! Only 15 lucky individuals worldwide will be able to share this once-in-a-lifetime experience with us. Don’t miss it and join the club!
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« Reply #1 on: May 07, 2006, 12:39:13 AM »
Chassis

The basis of this world-unique road-rocket is always the wide-hip body of the Cobra 427 SC in its original shape and dimensions which allows integration with modern vehicle components without disturbing the authentic look of the car. Its body is structured as follows:
MIG welded, self supporting tubular frame (diameter = 4”) to absorb very high torsion forces
all main parts of the chassis are built from aluminium and titanium
aluminium safety fuel tank integrated in tubular frame structure
body completely made from carbon composite materials (deep-drawn)
integrated reinforcements at high-wear points such as doors, hoods
highest quality paint coating individually coloured to the customer’s wishes
single wheel suspension
front and rear axle kept in place by Teflon and Unibal joints
power steering
safety roll-over bars

Brakes / suspension

-coil spring system
-continuously variable suspension (height and hardness individually adjustable)
-all suspension parts are made of aluminium and titanium
-specially engineered high-performance brake system (based on Brembo components) with internally ventilated, punched brake discs (front and rear axle) including special high-performance brake pads and Stahlflex brake hoses
-braking force (braking deceleration) controlled by an arm of balance system the engineering and setup of both suspension and brakes guarantees high precision driving (and braking) quality for highest active safety

Wheels/tyres

Front axle
3-piece 18” Weineck wheels with tyres 255/40 ZR 18 (Intermediate)
Rear axle
3-piece 18” Weineck wheels with tyres 315/35 ZR 18 (Intermediate)

Engine

The world’s most powerful car is powered by a naturally aspirated V8 engine with the highest power output and torque of all road-legal cars.
The world-unique precision with which this masterpiece is manufactured guarantees its unmatchable performance and at the same time maximum reliability.
All parts used for the engine are machined with highest precision to Formula 1 standards.
As follows the setup of the engine
Engine displacement: 780 cui (12.9 L)
Compression ratio: 11.5: 1
Cylinders: V / 8
(fully digital) with rev. limiter

Max. power: 809 kW / 1,100 hp at
7,000 rpm.
Max. torque: 1,760 Nm at 5,600 rpm.

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« Reply #2 on: May 07, 2006, 05:35:15 AM »
I'd pay cash for the car, and take out a loan to pay for the insurance! :lol

There was a company called Mark IV based at the disused Brooklands race circuit (later an airfield) in Britain which built replica AC Cobras with (I believe) an American 428 cubic inch engine. That's just over 7 litres - (61 cu. in. per litre). I don't know whether this outfit - a Korean firm IIRC - is still around. I visited their factory and they had a display of several cars in various stages of production. Unfortunately, Britain has a maximum 70mph speed limit, unlike some of the German autobahnen.

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« Reply #3 on: May 07, 2006, 06:29:39 AM »
Top it off with a press release translated by people who don't know anything about cars...  What's up with the entire paragraph about how the 3.0 liter engine, amazingly just as big as a BMW 330i engine, is more powerful than any race boat with a world-record torque rating?  That whole section is complete gibberish, and the rest is almost as bad.

I like the teflon suspension mounts too... WTF?  Teflon has no strength.  Maybe they mean teflon coated?  Teflon impregnated poly bushings maybe?  Who knows, 'cause the press release is gibberish.

And that said, if they can't get the press release to make any sense, what kind of car are they building?
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« Reply #4 on: May 07, 2006, 07:41:11 AM »
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Unfortunately, Britain has a maximum 70mph speed limit,


and you obey it?

70mph is not that fast for a modern car. There is just something wrong about driving at the legal speed limit when it pegs engine speed at just above idle speed in top gear. Engines need to be worked hard. Be kind to your engine, plant your right foot.

The speed limit is 100kmph here (60mph). On the motorways it's a cop magnet, but on the open road if traffic isn't too heavy I cruise at 80mph in a 1968 MKIV Zephyr. It's V8 with a beefed up suspension so it handles the speed well. The speed can hit 100mph or more during overtaking manuvers if the other guy speeds up, and they often do. And for some reason they are usually driving SUVs.

Except for the bonnet scoop the Cobra in the original post is nice, but it would have to come with it's own oil rich middle eastern country before I would consider buying it. That's assuming I had the money to buy it in the first place.

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« Reply #5 on: May 07, 2006, 08:33:59 AM »
same in this country.

the route i take to work, traffic in the outside lane usually goes at 85 - 95 mph (moronic lane hoggers depending).

the police here are fairly relaxed about enforcing the speed limits on the motorways as they are the safest roads in the country, just look out for reckless driving.  The main trouble spots for accidents due to speeding/reckless driving etc. have speed cameras to enforce the limit, but these are very rare on the motorways.  The only time speed cameras are common on the motorway is when there are roadworks going on, they take the limit down to 40mph or so to protect the workforce.
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« Reply #6 on: May 07, 2006, 02:03:06 PM »
Excel1 - wot furball said. ^ No, I don't stick at 70, and as Furb says, the right lane on a motorway generally does about 90. I've even had a marked police car pass me at that speed, and he didn't stop me. It was night and I hadn't seen him.

However, I was northbound on the M1 near Leeds a few weeks ago, and the Old Bill was rolling a jam butty in the left lane at a very annoying 69½mph. He was clearly visible, but some dork passed him doing about 90. He got pulled over about a mile further on.

The danger speed is 100. If you get caught doing that I think it's 6 penalty points and a ban of about 28 days.

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« Reply #7 on: May 07, 2006, 02:12:50 PM »
On my little Island it's 90 kph tops and the coppers will bust you if you go 100 :(

That said, my record on a gravel road is 160 kph, and 170 on the asphalt.
Well, my USSR "Lada 1600" wouldn't go any faster :D
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« Reply #8 on: May 07, 2006, 02:32:03 PM »
Yes the translation sux, but that's hardly a surprise. The car roxxors thought!

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« Reply #9 on: May 07, 2006, 04:42:28 PM »
what kind of MPG does THE ULITIMATE get?

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« Reply #10 on: May 07, 2006, 05:00:00 PM »
6 MPG in the city, and an astonishing 7 MPG on the highway!

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« Reply #11 on: May 07, 2006, 05:09:26 PM »
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6 MPG in the city, and an astonishing 7 MPG on the highway!


and about 9 girls per mile! :D


wow that car really is crazy!

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« Reply #12 on: May 07, 2006, 05:18:50 PM »
im guessing if you can afford one, you dont care
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« Reply #13 on: May 08, 2006, 08:51:10 AM »
Looks like a big block chevy but I can't understand the jibberish the article is written in.   they could probly squeeze out another couple MPG by going to a 6 speed tho.

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« Reply #14 on: May 08, 2006, 02:34:33 PM »
honestly... i really dont think the buyers will give a rats bellybutton about mpg.
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