Author Topic: F4U-1C Cannon V The hispano Cannon  (Read 698 times)

Offline Hawco

  • Parolee
  • Nickel Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 650
F4U-1C Cannon V The hispano Cannon
« on: May 11, 2006, 09:13:25 AM »
Are these two the same or are there slight differences ?

Offline leitwolf

  • Nickel Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 656
F4U-1C Cannon V The hispano Cannon
« Reply #1 on: May 11, 2006, 09:39:02 AM »
The M2s on the F4U-1C were american built Hispanos.
They differed slightly from the British Hispano Mk.II and afaik had a rather troublesome history (frequent jams) in comparison. But i'm sure the local gun experts will give you a lot better explanation :)
veni, vidi, vulchi.

Offline Urchin

  • Platinum Member
  • ******
  • Posts: 5517
F4U-1C Cannon V The hispano Cannon
« Reply #2 on: May 11, 2006, 09:55:45 AM »
Basically the same cannon.

Offline Tony Williams

  • Nickel Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 725
      • http://www.quarry.nildram.co.uk
F4U-1C Cannon V The hispano Cannon
« Reply #3 on: May 11, 2006, 10:33:37 AM »
See: http://www.quarry.nildram.co.uk/US404.htm

Tony Williams: Military gun and ammunition website and discussion forum

Offline Saxman

  • Plutonium Member
  • *******
  • Posts: 9155
F4U-1C Cannon V The hispano Cannon
« Reply #4 on: May 11, 2006, 12:37:56 PM »
I read a story about the early F4U-1Cs where initially they didn't work at higher altitude because the guns would actually freeze. Heaters were added, and problem gone.
Ron White says you can't fix stupid. I beg to differ. Stupid will usually sort itself out, it's just a matter of making sure you're not close enough to become collateral damage.

Offline Hawco

  • Parolee
  • Nickel Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 650
F4U-1C Cannon V The hispano Cannon
« Reply #5 on: May 11, 2006, 01:44:42 PM »
Very interesting Tony, great website too ! :aok

Offline Furball

  • Plutonium Member
  • *******
  • Posts: 15781
F4U-1C Cannon V The hispano Cannon
« Reply #6 on: May 11, 2006, 02:10:00 PM »
Quote
Originally posted by Urchin
Basically the same cannon.


except one worked, and one didnt :D
I am not ashamed to confess that I am ignorant of what I do not know.
-Cicero

-- The Blue Knights --

Offline Kev367th

  • Platinum Member
  • ******
  • Posts: 5290
F4U-1C Cannon V The hispano Cannon
« Reply #7 on: May 11, 2006, 07:15:18 PM »
So would that make the Hispano V in the Tempest a much superior version?
AMD Phenom II X6 1100T
Asus M3N-HT mobo
2 x 2Gb Corsair 1066 DDR2 memory

Offline Hawco

  • Parolee
  • Nickel Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 650
F4U-1C Cannon V The hispano Cannon
« Reply #8 on: May 11, 2006, 07:41:19 PM »
I'd read the link Tony put up Kev, What an interesting link that was, seems that the American version was finally accepted but NOT used in any aircraft.
Could you expand on the Mark V cannons ? I wasn't aware of a mark V, I'll have to do some digging at Tonys website to find out more.
Cheers
Hawco

Offline Tony Williams

  • Nickel Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 725
      • http://www.quarry.nildram.co.uk
F4U-1C Cannon V The hispano Cannon
« Reply #9 on: May 11, 2006, 08:20:12 PM »
Quote
Originally posted by Hawco
Could you expand on the Mark V cannons ? I wasn't aware of a mark V, I'll have to do some digging at Tonys website to find out more.

A late-war version which primarily (if not exclusively) saw action in the Tempest (and probably the Meteor). The barrel was shortened and the charger eliminated to save weight (from 50 to 42 kg for the bare gun) and the rate of fire was increased from 600 to 750 rpm. The US separately developed an equivalent version, the M3, but I don't think that saw action in WW2.

Tony Williams: Military gun and ammunition website and discussion forum