Author Topic: Vietnam Question.... (Read 515 times)

Hawklore · « **Reply #15 on:** May 18, 2006, 09:20:24 AM »

Ok heres the deal.

A draft dodger, my dad accidently told him out when the gov. came to the door, lol. He was little then, but he ain't smartend up yet,

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Guy returns from vietnam,

Claims he was in Quarter Masters, supply etc. Gives my dad the low slow and reliable patch, reinforcing it..

40 odd years later, he finds out he might be dying, story comes out and he says he was a door gunner..

Can we look up his military record when he's still alive and him not find out?

Curval · « **Reply #16 on:** May 18, 2006, 09:44:25 AM »

The P-3 Orions flew long after the Vietnam War, as sub hunters for the Navy. There were a bunch stationed here when the base was open.

Hawklore · « **Reply #17 on:** May 18, 2006, 10:25:00 AM »

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Originally posted by Curval
The P-3 Orions flew long after the Vietnam War, as sub hunters for the Navy. There were a bunch stationed here when the base was open.

The P-3 was just recently so I hear, de-comissioned/retired.

NAS Jax was a main airstation for repair of them..

I know about the damn P3, lol.

Hangtime · « **Reply #18 on:** May 18, 2006, 11:33:41 AM »

hawk.. the hueys we were around were 'field modifed' with respect to armamament. We'd find all kindsa stuff hanging off 'em. Most common was a welded up pivot mount for an M-60 in the right door. None that i saw had 'door gunners'.. the hueys crew chief would bribe the welder for the fab mount and he glomed the gun and the ammo via bribes from the QM and armorer and he manned the gun. Sometimes we'd sell the AV guys base mounts and M-60's recovered from wrecked armor or swift boats.

we (service and evac) did a pretty brisk trade with the guys in the aviation companys since the normal supply chain didn't TO&E m-60's on most hueys.

VOR · « **Reply #19 on:** May 18, 2006, 11:46:00 AM »

Hey Hangtime, looks like some things never change. I'll never understand the Army supply system or the way Army money works. All I understand is what I have on hand and what I need, which are usually exclusive of each other. Being told we have X dollars in the budget but we can't buy what you need because it is/isn't an MTOE item really gets under my skin.

If you need it, you need it. You shouldn't have to circumvent the supply system to actually get it.

x0847Marine · « **Reply #20 on:** May 18, 2006, 12:25:59 PM »

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Originally posted by VOR
Hey Hangtime, looks like some things never change. I'll never understand the Army supply system or the way Army money works. All I understand is what I have on hand and what I need, which are usually exclusive of each other. Being told we have X dollars in the budget but we can't buy what you need because it is/isn't an MTOE item really gets under my skin.

If you need it, you need it. You shouldn't have to circumvent the supply system to actually get it.

During my artellery meterology training at Ft. Sill, an Army base, we had our "Met" trucks to train with... but the Army said they had no $$ in the budget to put gas in them. Meanwhile dozens of vehicles buzzed all around us.

Our SSGT instructor had to cyphin gas from another truck so we could leave the parking lot.

indy007 · « **Reply #21 on:** May 18, 2006, 12:34:38 PM »

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Originally posted by Hangtime
hawk.. the hueys we were around were 'field modifed' with respect to armamament. We'd find all kindsa stuff hanging off 'em. Most common was a welded up pivot mount for an M-60 in the right door. None that i saw had 'door gunners'.. the hueys crew chief would bribe the welder for the fab mount and he glomed the gun and the ammo via bribes from the QM and armorer and he manned the gun. Sometimes we'd sell the AV guys base mounts and M-60's recovered from wrecked armor or swift boats.

we (service and evac) did a pretty brisk trade with the guys in the aviation companys since the normal supply chain didn't TO&E m-60's on most hueys.

Ever hear a story about a guy that mounted a pilfered AF rocket pod to his gunship? According to the story, they took a guess on a 3-position switch on the pod for the firing mode (no manual). Turns out they selected the "all at once" switch, sheared the pod off during the firing (with rockets going in so many directions incoming fire was reported 2 miles away), and got it wedged between the skid & body with 1 rocket still burning away in the big, paper pod. Lucked at with that 1 rocket motor burning out and not detonating.

Same guy, according to the stories, mounted a .50cal in the cargo bay. They used sandbags, which promptly shredded and filled the helo with a sandstorm. Managed to get it back on the ground safely, switched the sandbags for mattresses, and all of a sudden had an evil new toy to chase Charlie with.

nirvana · « **Reply #22 on:** May 18, 2006, 12:53:28 PM »

Anymore stories? These are interesting, continue please.

Hangtime · « **Reply #23 on:** May 18, 2006, 01:01:08 PM »

well.. i did help wire up some duce 'n 1/2's with claymores. Anti-ambush rig. Dunno if they ever used it. wouldn't wanna be within a 1/2 mile of the thing.