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Offline Angus

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« Reply #15 on: May 25, 2006, 10:27:31 AM »
This morning it was:
Spit VIII
Hurry I
F4U-4
Lancaster
A6M2

Basically fly about everything, least the 190's and Jap planes though.
It's a simulator you see, and the sides are bishes, rooks and knights.

In Axis vs Allies, I usually join the team with less players.
It was very interesting to carry out the flight trials at Rechlin with the Spitfire and the Hurricane. Both types are very simple to fly compared to our aircraft, and childishly easy to take-off and land. (Werner Mölders)

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« Reply #16 on: May 25, 2006, 10:30:28 AM »
Bat I did the same stuff with models as a kid. I had a B26 that I put a few flak holes in, sanded away most of the plastic thickness around the holes and made it look like jagged metal. Then I painted silver around the jagged parts. I also cut pieces of plastic to look like the ribs of the wings inside. I was quite proud of it.

  As for WW2, I have always been a buff since I was a kid. I like flying alot of the planes in here.  I dont think I ever looked at is as "Im American, I should fly US iron! " though.

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« Reply #17 on: May 25, 2006, 10:45:59 AM »
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Have to admit when I see a Zero I get that.."For Pearl Harbor" feeling.


I couldnt agree more.  When there is a CV attack on an airfield and i see zeros.  The first plane i jump in is a P-40E.  I stick to the runway to gain speed then pull her into the air and let er rip!

I pretty much fly all American Planes.  There is that whole being from America and proud to fly such wounderful fighters.  But also, like BatfinkV, i often "Daydream" while flying fighter, pretending im actually in this fighter and my life depends on how well i fly.

Alittle over a year ago, my old squad 31st BomberBarons were escorting the Screaming Ealges (now called Silent Executioners) on a long range high alt HQ run.  The SE's were B-17s and we were P-51Ds.  Once we got to around 25k feet, we set our engines to cruise and sat back and enjoyed the large amouth of 17s that were there.  As i sat there, i began to get cold myself sitting at my computer.  It was like 80 degrees outside and inside the house.  I began to shiver.  I got so much into "being" in the Mustang, that i felt like i was there at 25k feet.  Feeling the coldness all the way down through my body!!  Lets say, i had a nice big sleeping bag to warm me up!!
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« Reply #18 on: May 25, 2006, 11:24:17 AM »
Interesting topic.  I did not realize I was a minority in being an American flying LW planes.  

While I am a patriot and hate Nazi's, I have always rooted for the underdog.  As a kid, when we played Cowboys and Indians I was always the Indian.  When watching a football game and I don't really care which team wins, I always root for the loosing team.

My other reason is that LW planes are generally harder to fly and I feel I will be a better pilot if don't get in a nancy boy no skill TnB plane.  Hence the reason you will NEVER see me in a LA-7 and the reason I hunt down those Dweeb LA's with great fervor.

So that is why I fly LW and IJN planes almost exclusively.  I think the U.S. planes are too numerous and have too much of an advantage and someone needs to fly for the underdog.
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« Reply #19 on: May 25, 2006, 11:42:21 AM »
While it's not a powerful, pervasive mindset, I do find that I have a distinct preference for Allied choices in any game.  In AH, my preferred fights are against axis airframes, when I'm in allied colors.  Doesn't really matter, as I usually die in flames anyway.  :D

Though I've enjoyed flying the occasional luftwobble aircraft, and always liked the look of 109's, I guess I'd still prefer to play for the good guys.

Both the Germans and the Japanese killed members of my family back in the day, and I can't quite forget that.

Yup...some patriotism does kick in here, I suppose.


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« Reply #20 on: May 25, 2006, 11:50:46 AM »
Nothing gives me more pleasure in AH than shooting down a N1K2 or Zeke in a F4F, F4U, or F6F.  I love the scenarios and squad ops that feature the Pacific theater, and I usually want to be on the USN side of things (though I did lead a IJN attack squad in Midway scenario a few years ago.)

I still enjoy flying a Spit I in a Battle of Britain set too. My last name is of English origin, so I have a place in my heart for jolly ol' England. :)

I do like to try out different planes though, regardless of their country of origin.
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« Reply #21 on: May 25, 2006, 12:32:40 PM »
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I dunno Bat, its a bit touchy in my family. Relative of mine on my dads side survived Auchwitz but her entire family didn't. I don't mind flying 109's or 190's from an aircraft perspective, but it is a bit disconcerting from a standpoint of what the symbology going along with it stood for.


Many German planes were assembed by workers of the concentration camps, see:
http://www.gusen.org/gu20101x.htm

"At Mauthausen-Gusen, DEST (the SS firm responsible for the exploitation of the prisoners in the stone-quarries since 1938), the German Air-Force (Luftwaffe), and Messerschmitt GmbH Regensburg started the joint venture of B8 BERGKRISTALL-ESCHE 2 for the final assembly stage of the Me 262 jet-plane within the Mauthausen-Gusen complex.
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So, Messerschmitt GmbH Regensburg (together with DEST) produced nearly one third of its over-all aircraft production at KZ Mauthausen-Gusen and KZ Flossenbuerg
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The Jews belonged to the lowest group in the KZ Gusen hierarchy. They had to do the worst jobs and often survived just for a few working-days in that "Hell of Hells"at KZ Gusen II.  Fr other groups of prisoners, the average survival-period reached up to four months."
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« Reply #22 on: May 25, 2006, 12:43:23 PM »
I was very partial to the Mustang. I greatly enjoyed hunting Luftwhiners.

Kurt Tank invented Luftwhiners.
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« Reply #23 on: May 25, 2006, 03:21:56 PM »
I only fly US aircraft. Mostly the Jug and Corsair and P51B.

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« Reply #24 on: May 25, 2006, 03:23:01 PM »
I think 90% of my ammo in panzers & tigers is old surplus & they were assembled by concentration camp jews to start with. Because 90% of them are duds or don't penetrate, I think Schindlers people replaced the cores with talcum powder.

J/K sort of.

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« Reply #25 on: May 25, 2006, 03:31:16 PM »
My favorite AH scenario is flying P-51D against LW. If bombers are involved, it's even better.

I first started playing AW thinking that would be the normal thing.... oh well... I still do try to play the role sometimes.

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« Reply #26 on: May 25, 2006, 03:43:07 PM »
The first Balsa wood model I built (the type  where you had a paper template and cut the stringers out each, individually by hand!) was that of a BF109 (or was it ME109? I don't remember...1968 was along time ago)...anyway, the first plane I flew in AW was the 109. The first squadron I joined in AH was JG2.  German blood runs deep. :)

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« Reply #27 on: May 25, 2006, 03:51:53 PM »
u r teh nazii!!!1!!1!!one!!!11!!!ein!

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« Reply #28 on: May 25, 2006, 03:55:21 PM »
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The first Balsa wood model I built (the type  where you had a paper template and cut the stringers out each, individually by hand!) was that of a BF109 (or was it ME109? I don't remember...1968 was along time ago)...anyway, the first plane I flew in AW was the 109. The first squadron I joined in AH was JG2.  German blood runs deep. :)

heh, I seem to remember a thread like this a few years ago and both of us mentioning something about Corsairs and watching Black Sheep Squadron.  :)
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« Reply #29 on: May 25, 2006, 05:35:46 PM »
When I first started playing AW on GEnie, I was all for the American planes. Tried the P-51 first, of course (High Blower Engaged). Then the F-4. I managed to become a fairly proficient moving target.

Then somebody turned me on to the Ki-84, the ultimate "lamer plane". I finally started getting some kills.

By the time AW hit the internet, I was flying the FW190-D9. That plane was so sweet it felt like cheating. This was my favorite ride for several years. No, i'm not a fan of nazis or fascism (no offense Skuzzy). The speed, roll rate and cannons on this beast made it a killing machine.

AH1 found me flying the F-6 and the D-9.

Now the game dynamics have changed. There's more gang banging, and reduced performance on my favorite rides. I've been flying 190s, F-4s, nikis, P-38s and mossies... it's generally the same old story. Start closing, and he heads for the deck while six of his buddies jump you. I'm still trying to find a plane that fits, and still holding out hope that this game can be as enjoyable as it once was.

A return of Fightertown would be nice.