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Offline Bluedog

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« Reply #45 on: May 25, 2006, 10:32:58 PM »
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austrailia allways sounded kind of good to me..... nice big empty country with rugged individuals.

I could even stand the queen being on my money and driving on the wrong side of the road because australia has a great tradition of hot rodders and V8 cars... the gas costs too much because of socialism but... not the end of the world.

nope... the real problem came when they gave up their firearms rights.  I can't begin to tell you how much that changed my opinion of australia and its people...  I suddenly realized that australia was..... just another british country.

lazs


You do realise that guns are NOT illegal in Australia right?
I have a .22/250, a .270, 2 .22s, a .308, a .303, a 12 guage and a .30/30 not ten feet from where I sit right now...every one of them perfectly legal.
I allso have a concealable weapons permit, and can quite often be found with a Baretta 92 or Browning Hi-Power on my person (would prefer a 1911, but it's a work licence and .45s arent allowed:( )
I probably spend as much time on a range as you do, some of it compulsory for licence requirements, most of it for the pure fun of blasting holes in stuff.
Quite often I share the range with cops, if guns were illegal here I'm pretty sure one of them would have said something by now.

What they banned was assault weapons, pump action shotguns (now that one is beyond me) and semi-autos.
They allso made it a mandatory requirement for firearms owners to have a licence and register their guns.
Apart from close encounters with the porcine kind in dense scrub, I havent missed the semi-autos at all, and the .30/30 is fast enough for that kind of work anyway.

There were a lot of AKs, SKSs,SLRs (FN-FAL), AR15s and 18s, M1s and countless small .22 semis handed in (along with enough M2 .50 BMG machine guns to fit out a rebuilt B24:huh), but you got to keep any bolt action, lever action or break-barrel weapons.
They allso gave ridiculous amounts of compensation for guns handed in, usually WAY above market value. I got $1500 or so for a pair of non-functional, total junk SKSs and a rusty old M1 carbine.
The SAC and SPAS 12, $1400 each, a bit more than twice what I paid for them a few thousand rounds ago.

The only right we gave up was the right to have nutters armed with Chinese assault rifles roaming our tourist spots, dont think they'll be missed much either.
It was way to easy for any idiot to get whatever gun they liked beforehand, I personally, at the grand old age of thirteen, walked into the local gunshop, handed over a couple hundred bucks, and walked out with an Australian Automatic Arms SAC (pretty much a mini SLR chambered for 5.56 NATO and using M16 mags) and two thousand rounds, plus two spare mags.
Came back the next day and bought a Franchi SPAS 12 and 500 rounds.
I hadnt even produced any ID and I walked out of there packing more firepower than any cop in town.
I was too young to drive, drink, vote or join the military, but they were fine with me walking out of the shop one day with an assault rifle and the next with a combat shotgun...dunno about you, but I find that whole scenario a bit disturbing, what if I was some nutter out to go postal?, they had no way of knowing.

That kind of thing cant happen anymore.

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Take note of the Union Jack in the upper left corner , same spot you guys have all those stars.......something vaguely familiar about it??
 
Hate to break it to ya Laz, but we are, and allways have been stuanchly proud members of the British Commonwealth.
Doesnt mean we dont think Brits are all limp wristed whinging tea fetishists, but thats beside the point ;) They are our limp wristed, whinging, tea fetishist mates......who we whup at every sport they ever invented and several they didnt.





Anyone got any pliers? This hook kinda hurts :)
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« Reply #46 on: May 26, 2006, 12:05:00 AM »
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What they banned was assault weapons, pump action shotguns


 In the U.S.A. we call that a gun ban. Heck, I called it a gun ban when the liberal left voted in an assault weapon import/threaded rifle barrel/bayonet/magazine ban. It was the height of stupidity. I'm glad Bush allowed it to go away without looking back.
 
I'll just never understand gun banners or the people who award multi-billion dollar settlements against tobacco companies. If you take the person who is actually responsible for using the tool or product out of the picture; then ban cars, they  kill more people than guns every year. Or how about alcohol? I have never heard a legit reason for that other than I like it & I want it & look how many people die because of that.

 There has to be a line drawn when people are forced to take responsibility for their own actions & stop blaming inanimate objects. People kill people.

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« Reply #47 on: May 26, 2006, 12:18:54 AM »
Australia consumes more beer per capita than any other country, but that may not be good.  there could be supply & demand trouble when the foster's guys see what the oil guys are doing & realize they're on an island....:noid :noid :noid :noid :cry :mad:

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« Reply #48 on: May 26, 2006, 10:36:48 AM »
so bluedog... you are saying that if I were a citizen there i would have no problem with getting a concealled carry permit for my Kimber..oops  nope that'a a semi auto.... how bout my 340PD smith or say.... my cut down 44 ruger magnum?  

You say that the only thing that changed is there are no bands of cheap ak 47 thugs running around... was that a big problem?   How many M1 garand thugs were running amuk?   1897 tech pump shotgun guys?  

Looking into my gun safe...It would appear that half or more of my guns would be illegal and.... Not even the deadliest ones at that... just ones some woman in the U.N. doesn't like  and....I don't want $1500 for any of em unless I can go buy a better example of the same thing the next day

So... I can bring all my revolvers and carry em right?   I can keep my pump remington 30-06?   How bout my semi auto shotgun?   None of my semi auto pistols except whatever it is that you have... berreta?  yuk.  I have a couple of nice 22 semi auto pistols... why would they be banned?

Sorry... Just seem like a very sweeping ban to me and.... I can't help but feel that the regestration is simply the next to last step in confiscation... I don't think you guys will fight it much if it happens.... someone will shoot an old lady or two with a high powered rifle and that will be it.

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« Reply #49 on: May 26, 2006, 11:39:43 AM »
I think the australians were worried about the roos shooting back.

They've been forever scarred by hollywood.

EDIT: RPM.. How about NE New Mexico? I went through there 30 years ago and said "I have GOT to come back here!"  Tall pines, pasture land, very pretty country.. and isolated. At least it was in the 70's.... wonder what it's like now?
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« Reply #50 on: May 26, 2006, 01:16:44 PM »
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Anyone in the "energy" business is EVIL!

rpm = Bush


Bobby Ewing wasn't evil

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« Reply #51 on: May 26, 2006, 01:41:21 PM »
Skip right past Mexico, Costa Rica is that spot. Very nice country, friendly to americans, and relatively cheap.

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« Reply #52 on: May 26, 2006, 01:49:36 PM »
Handguns are differant Laz, if you have a permit , it doesnt matter if it is semi auto, wheelgun or a flintlock for that matter.

I'm not saying I think banning semi autos was a good idea, I do think restricting who can and cant have one was.

Just saying, dont get the idea Aussies have no guns, that just isnt true, far from it.

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« Reply #53 on: May 26, 2006, 01:56:33 PM »
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Handguns are differant Laz, if you have a permit , it doesnt matter if it is semi auto, wheelgun or a flintlock for that matter.

I'm not saying I think banning semi autos was a good idea, I do think restricting who can and cant have one was.

Just saying, dont get the idea Aussies have no guns, that just isnt true, far from it.


Sounds like the thought of 10,000 enraged aborigines with FALS scared the crap outta yah.
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« Reply #54 on: May 26, 2006, 02:42:35 PM »
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Bobby Ewing wasn't evil


The thread was about RPM finding a new home. Mr Big can't turn off his boosh bashing switch long enough to participate.:rofl

How the hell you been Gainsie?

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« Reply #55 on: May 26, 2006, 06:19:22 PM »
SRY messed up,

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« Reply #56 on: May 26, 2006, 11:30:31 PM »
Ya know, I hadn't thought of Northern NM. I really enjoyed the Farmington area, but isn't that area the holistic Mecca? Don't need a buncha crystal huggers for neighbors if I can help it.

Costa Rica sounds excellent. I think the cost of living is pretty good there and it only drawback is hurricanes, but heck I've ridden those out before.
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« Reply #57 on: May 27, 2006, 10:37:37 AM »
blue...you can email me if you like... perhaps I am reading the wrong stuff.... it appears that they chance of me getting a permit to carry a handgun is near impossible in your country and that most of the firearms I have would be illegal to own.... and... that everything I own would have to be regestered by the government and they could come and get it at any time.

Who exactly were you afraid might have these fireams?  can't help but think it was me you had in mind.    Can't help but think that the new laws were just not the end of it except that now..... they know who owns what and where to go to round em up.

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« Reply #58 on: May 27, 2006, 02:34:15 PM »
RPM build a log cabin in Kentucky, study Law by candlelight and hell run for the Presidency!

You'd have it made then.... save the South from itself!!!

Free America!

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« Reply #59 on: May 28, 2006, 12:22:20 AM »
A log cabin? I used to live in one of those (no joke, it was a drafty son of a gun), but never studied law by candlelight. But I'll tell ya what, I'll put you on the ticket for VP. We could be a truly bipartisan ticket and set some sheeit straight.:aok

How about Gunslinger for SecDef and Nash for Secretary of State? (We'd have to forge some papers for Nash, tho.)
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