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Offline lasersailor184

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« on: May 29, 2006, 12:47:24 PM »
Hi.  I recently got fired from a small part time job.  While they wouldn't really tell me why I was fired, I believe it was because I was working too hard.  And I'm not kidding about this in a bid to cover my bellybutton from getting fired.


Anyway, I heard someone mention that in my state (pennsylvania) that all dues and wages that are owed are to be paid immediately after termination of the job.  

Is this true at all?

The way it is set up originally is that paychecks would come every 2 weeks, almost 2 weeks after the last day of the pay period.  I just got paid this past friday for a period of 2 weeks, 2 weeks before the friday.  So 2 friday's from now I'm due another paycheck.  However, it was a tipping job, I had been pulling down very small amounts of tips and had been living off of that.  Without the tips I am in trouble.

So I'd like to verify if in Pennsylvania, all money owed is due immediately after termination.
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« Reply #1 on: May 29, 2006, 01:11:39 PM »
Ok, lawyer speak time.

In this file: http://www.dli.state.pa.us/landi/lib/landi/laws-regulations%5Cllc%5Cwpclaw.pdf it says in section 5.A that dues are due on the next pay day when the employee quits or resigns, or when the employee is seperated from the payroll.

Does "Seperated from the payroll" mean fired?  Or does it mean the employee is put on a seperate pay schedule of some sorts?
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« Reply #2 on: May 29, 2006, 01:23:28 PM »
To get a real answer that will be helpfull, contact the wage and hour division in the state where you were employed on Tuesday morning. It should be a simple thing for them to get an answer for you. Perhaps they could make sure you get your complete salary.
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« Reply #3 on: May 29, 2006, 01:30:29 PM »
Oh, I know I'll be getting paid.  I just don't want to wait 2 weeks to get my money (if possible).
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« Reply #4 on: May 29, 2006, 07:04:47 PM »
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Does "Seperated from the payroll" mean fired?  Or does it mean the employee is put on a seperate pay schedule of some sorts?


not sure about the rest of your questions(specific state to state), but "separated from payroll" means you don't get paid anymore.

it's just a way of saying it so they can limit people contesting or suing.

they didn't say you were fired, so they don't have to defend that decision.

 you're also not laid-off so they reserve the right to contest unemployment benefits, and don't get legal problems about saying you were laid-off because they didn't need you and then hiring someone else to do your job.

and finally, since you aren't fired they can avoid any time limit your state may have on paying off terminated employees.  you could fight this but by the time you get it cleared up the next regular pay period will have come and gone.
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« Reply #5 on: May 29, 2006, 08:56:49 PM »
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Originally posted by lasersailor184
Hi.  I recently got fired from a small part time job.  While they wouldn't really tell me why I was fired, I believe it was because I was working too hard.  And I'm not kidding about this in a bid to cover my bellybutton from getting fired.


Anyway, I heard someone mention that in my state (pennsylvania) that all dues and wages that are owed are to be paid immediately after termination of the job.  

Is this true at all?

The way it is set up originally is that paychecks would come every 2 weeks, almost 2 weeks after the last day of the pay period.  I just got paid this past friday for a period of 2 weeks, 2 weeks before the friday.  So 2 friday's from now I'm due another paycheck.  However, it was a tipping job, I had been pulling down very small amounts of tips and had been living off of that.  Without the tips I am in trouble.

So I'd like to verify if in Pennsylvania, all money owed is due immediately after termination.


Most likely you will have to wait until your normal payday. Although the only time I have been fired was my very first job and if I remember right, I had to wait just like normal. May be different in your state but more than likely you have to wait.
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« Reply #6 on: May 29, 2006, 10:33:38 PM »
Well...  In the process of the two managers sitting me down in their office, I asked the question:

"So you're firing me?"

They said Yes.

Does that get me anywhere?
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« Reply #7 on: May 30, 2006, 12:02:43 AM »
yes , you are now free to find another job.
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« Reply #8 on: May 30, 2006, 08:40:01 AM »
File for unemployment if applicable and move on. Dwelling on this is futile and will get you nowhere. Keep in mind the saying, when one door closes another opens.

In other words, it's only a job and there are more of them out there, get up off of the ground and go get one of them!
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« Reply #9 on: May 30, 2006, 10:36:37 AM »
I know, this weekend really has gone well for me.

I've been asked to crew on two olympic class boats over the summer, and possibly hitting the one boat's championship in the fall.
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« Reply #10 on: May 30, 2006, 10:40:52 AM »
Not sure about Penn., but in CA we have to present you with all of your wages upon termination, if you quit we get 72 hours to settle up.
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« Reply #11 on: May 30, 2006, 10:50:36 AM »
Yeah, talking to some people, we've decided that "Seperated" means not with the job anymore.  It's funny because it's one of the only words NOT defined on one of the 20 pages of definitions for the bill.

Looks like I'm humped for the time being.
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