The new 38 is a monster....Have films to prove it

[Kweassa]

I just did a file diff with the previous version to verify that I didn't inadvertantly change something that I didn't mean to. One thing changed in the 38s, that is it. The entry that dictates the change in parasitic drag when using the last notch of flaps was missing a zero immediately after the decimal point due to a typo which then propagated to all the 38s via cut and paste. This caused the drag to be 10x high when you went from the 4th notch to the last notch and you saw that as the drag chute effect. What changed is that the drag increment in full flaps only is no longer 10x high. That's what some of you guys are crying about.

 Comical, ain't it?

 I was about to post the following question in every "P-38 improved" threads;

Guys... If I understand correctly, the 2.08 was supposed to be only a slight makeover in basic GUI... some bugs might have been corrected, but it seems strange that you guys are saying the FM has become different.

Bear in mind that 2.08 Beta was being tested side-by-side with 2.07 as the current standard of the MA. Something's clearly amiss, since there's no way HTC would run two different versions with different FM used by different players.

 Are you sure its just not placebo?

 Well, according to Pyro.. nothing's changed but the last notch of flaps. All those 'better E retention' or 'better handling' rabble simply proves that the 2.07 P-38 never changed at all - all that changed was how people react toward it. One single misinformation, suddenly everybody feels optimistic, and starts to praise the plane as something better - when in fact nothing changed at all.

 Shucks, don't be too embarassed.

 The same thing happend to us Luftweenies when the 190 got a facelift - we all thought the plane became better - when in fact, it sucked as it always sucked.

[Wilbus]

ROFLMAO Charge and Kweassa said all that needs saying

[Morpheus]

Nazi lose war because they suck. Plane and man. Dirty american honkey win war because we have cool double engine plane with super flaps.

[Masherbrum]

Originally posted by storch
Never read that.  I read that he reversed with relatively low altitude to clear a noob's 6 and stalled it low and slow thereby breaking some of the cardinal rules he himself had written about fighting in the P38.  of course had he been in an HTC inspired P38 in that very same sortie he could have:

beaten every japanese plane currently in theater.
flown on to hiroshima, bombed it to rubble.
cruised to nagasaki, rinse and repeat.
snagged dugout doug.
towed the missouri and accompanying fleets into Tokyo bay.
signed the surrender instrument from D1.5 with his lasers.

all with one loadout and no hot padding.

gimme a break here.

to Thomas B. McGuire Jr. with all deference and respect.

He had drop tanks on.  But mocking McGuire is uncalled for, what happened wasn't funny, and SHOULD BE taken literal.

[navajoboy]

Originally posted by Morpheus
Nazi lose war because they suck. Plane and man. Dirty american honkey win war because we have cool double engine plane with super flaps.

and cool brown people who spoke an unbreakable code.....

[Morpheus]

Ebonix zOMFG.

[Stang]

[Hazard69]

I have been of the opinion for a long time that the 2.07 FM had improved P38s handling qualities overall, except at fifth notch flap. Now that thats fixed Im surprised to see everybody else agrees with me........


Anyways I thank HTC for fixing the bug, but I guess I should also thank HTC for implementing it in the first place. If they hadn't Id still be turning in circles only.

[navajoboy]

Originally posted by Morpheus
Ebonix zOMFG.

hahaha
coming out of your stereo ........

you poptart!

[Ack-Ack]

Originally posted by Kweassa

 Well, according to Pyro.. nothing's changed but the last notch of flaps. All those 'better E retention' or 'better handling' rabble simply proves that the 2.07 P-38 never changed at all - all that changed was how people react toward it.  

 

That's what I tried to tell the other P-38 drivers but don't think anyone believed me.


ack-ack

[Guppy35]

Originally posted by Ack-Ack
That's what I tried to tell the other P-38 drivers but don't think anyone believed me.


ack-ack

I went up last night in the 38G to see if it was different and my first feeling was it felt 'lighter'  My next comment was that I had probably talked myself into believing it and that it wasn't different really but as long as I felt that way it was  OK.

So in that regard, if I talk myself into being more confident again in the 38 because of the flap fix, it's all good

[Morpheus]

Originally posted by navajoboy
hahaha
coming out of your stereo ........

you poptart!

LOL poptart?

I know I atleast have years on you.

Ebonix?

Let me get my cap and gown. I'll show you what I think of ebonix.

[Soulyss]

38's definetly had a different feel last night to me... but I chalked it up to just more confidence... last version I constantly had to remind myself which flap setting I was on to make sure I didn't hit that 5th position when I didn't want to... with this version I could focus more on what was happening outside w/out fear of falling out of the sky.

[Eagler]

just skip ahead 10 more patches and have all planes turn like zeros and be done with it..

[Kweassa]

That's what I tried to tell the other P-38 drivers but don't think anyone believed me.

 Ah the path of the prophet!

 Join the club, I'll lend you my cool-lookin Jedi-ish brown robes. It immediately makes people look credible!