Please fix the rampant Ordinance Porking

[DoKGonZo]

Porking in general is out of control. It's done to everything 2 and 3 levels deep all around the map. It stagnates gameplay which is bad enough. But porkers also refuse to engage in a fight and forget about them helping a friendly in trouble. And if you do chase one, they'll double-back for more high-speed passes on the field so they can vultch and hope that the ack kills them before you do.

Ord should be hardened, as should barracks (one would assume the paratroopers would be smart enough to jump into trenches when the air raid siren sounded).

[bozon]

Even those who do not care much about "capture bases win the war" must admit that it is a driving force in the MA and contributes to game dynamics. Porking the ordinance is a legitimate tactic and can potentialy drive gameplay - not just restrict it. It is a good gameplay since unlike porking fuel, it still allows the furballers to fly and defend (but not to counter attack efficiently).

However, it is far too easy. Strat buildings should not be destroyed by cannons and MG, or at least take a lot to bring down. For the strat to be strat it means it is a target for JABO and bombers, not for a silly guy in an La7 or typhoon that can kill troops and ord on a base and spare some cannon round for a vulch. Why to even bother carrying bombs?

Reduce gunfire lethality vs. strat buildings.

Bozon

[JMFJ]

As long as my gv keeps getting bombed I will pork ord to my little hearts content.

JMFJ

[whels]

back in the day of old AH when you could pork fule to 25%, it was an easy way for the outnumbered to slow down the horde. now with it limited to 75% it doesnt slow them down at all, and really niether does hittin ammo or troops. cause they can bring multiple goons, and keep cap on the field, since they have atleast 75% fuel.

i say bring back the ability to pork fuel to 25%.  also, if HT is gona keep it so that 1 lone fighter can destrat a field, i say reduce the # of player resupplies required to repair the field. 8 is too many, and maybe 1 is too few. so  go with like 3.

[JMFJ]

I agree with whels bring back the 25% fuel.

JMFJ

[Bronk]

Harden ords so it can only be taken out with bombs and rockets.
This would stop the single ac from porking an entire field .

Also lower fuel to 50% would be good.
I feel this would allow for furballers to still up but stop the horde hover over a field.



Bronk

[mars01]

So you have no ord, ok so up more guys in Mossies, typhis, nikis and gun the city down and drop troops.

Oh wait - No ord means you can't kill FHrs and CVs ahhh now I understand.

[Bronk]

Originally posted by mars01
So you have no ord, ok so up more guys in Mossies, typhis, nikis and gun the city down and drop troops.

Oh wait - No ord means you can't kill FHrs and CVs ahhh now I understand.

ya missed 110s .


Bronk

[NCLawman]

I see your point.  Respectfully, I disagree.  I think the modeling is fine and can live with the destruction of the bunker by a few cannon passes.  I think that pork ing the fields is a legitimate means of slowing down the enemy or preventing further advance into your territory.  That is part of the strategy of the GAME.

However, I do feel that you are correct in that it is too easy for a lone plane to zip inside a bases defenses, fire up the base and auger.  Here is a possible solution.... enhance the base defenses.  Put more acks/field guns OR add 5 inch puffy acks to fields so that bases can more effectively be defended from the lone suicide attacker.  

The improved land based defenses would accomplish several things... one it would make it more difficult for a lone plane or person to effect the outcome of the "war".  Second, it would slow down the endless vulch and run wimps and force people to fight out the battles in the air.  (Something that should please both furballers and landgrabbers)

But that is just my nickles worth of free advice. :-)  And, you know what they say about opinions..... LOL

NCLawMan

[smash]

Originally posted by JMFJ
I agree with whels bring back the 25% fuel.

JMFJ

I had no idea this had changed.... I was busily flying along last night in B17s taking out fuel believing I'm actually doing something.

[Edbert1]

I am floored by the humor of strategery types who've been flattening the FHs for years now (in the never ending effort to end the never ending war) that complain when their ord gets porked. Either you think denying the other players ability to fly is a good thing or it is not, you cannot seriously support dropping the FHs and then say that ord needs to be protected.

I'll go for the hardening of fuel/ammo/troops if and only if the FHs are hardened by the same percentage.

[96Delta]

Originally posted by DoKGonZo
one would assume the paratroopers would be smart enough to jump into trenches when the air raid siren sounded.

We are.

And yes, the ammo bunkers need to be hardened
to at least the level of the VH (a lousy garage) AND
the barracks as well ... or add 6 barracks to each base
to discourage this kind of nonsensical gameplay.

OR

Triple the number of AA guns on each field.

David "96Delta"

[96Delta]

Originally posted by JMFJ
I agree with whels bring back the 25% fuel.

JMFJ

I like this idea too.

[Bronk]

I don't want ords and troops hardened . Just immune to ac fire. One 250 lb bomb would suffice. This would also apply to to all hangers . This would stop the heavy cannon birds from gunning down hangers after the misdrop of ords.


Bronk

[Chalenge]

Id rather have rebuild times changed or the number of ammo and troop and fuel bunkers increased. Make the strat porking a team effort rather than the work of a single pilot. In real life werent they hardened and underground? I dont believe cannons or machineguns should hurt them at all.