global warning update.

[john9001]

NASA satellites check the ocean temps to help predict hurricanes, they show the temp of the Atlantic is cooler this year than last year at this time.

I wonder if al (the world is ending) gore knows about this?

[FUNKED1]

IT'S MANBEARPIG!!!

[Ripsnort]

Originally posted by john9001
NASA satellites check the ocean temps to help predict hurricanes, they show the temp of the Atlantic is cooler this year than last year at this time.

I wonder if al (the world is ending) gore knows about this?

Link?

[2bighorn]

Originally posted by john9001
NASA satellites check the ocean temps to help predict hurricanes, they show the temp of the Atlantic is cooler this year than last year at this time.

I wonder if al (the world is ending) gore knows about this?

Really, what politics has to do with climate?

It's really not difficult to have lower temperatues this year, since last year was a record year, according to NASA, the warmest in the last 2000 years, probably last 10,000. Also in term of ocean temperatures, last year was extraordinary.

Besides, long term global averages is what counts when it comes to climate changes.

Anyways, nice cherry pick there, John.

[weaselsan]

Originally posted by Ripsnort
Link?

link

[Makarov9]

Originally posted by FUNKED1
IT'S MANBEARPIG!!!

"I'm super serious guys..."

[Holden McGroin]

Originally posted by 2bighorn
Really, what politics has to do with climate?

What cave you been livin in?

[2bighorn]

Originally posted by Holden McGroin
What cave you been livin in?

You're right, I should have asked what climate has to do with politics, instead of other way around...

[Holden McGroin]

No, climate science is a big driving force in politics, and politics is a huge driver in climate science.  They tend to drive each other.  

One must be extremely careful and wade through a tremendous amount of opinion in climate science to find the science.  Many so called scientists tend to look for the data that supports their thesis and look no further.  Then the politician take these thesis' as proven fact and look no further.

[BluKitty]

ya Atlantic maybe .... I've heard the Gulf is quite warm this year though.


I mean take alook around you ..... do you think all the crap we throw into the air does nothing?  Diffusion is intresting .. but inescapeable.  And osmosis can kill you.

Ya, but don't worry.... you've got nothing to fear but terrorists (rollseyes)

[2bighorn]

Originally posted by Holden McGroin
No, climate science is a big driving force in politics, and politics is a huge driver in climate science.  They tend to drive each other.

I meant "the Climate" and not any particular science...  

Originally posted by Holden McGroin
One must be extremely careful and wade through a tremendous amount of opinion in climate science to find the science.  Many so called scientists tend to look for the data that supports their thesis and look no further.  Then the politician take these thesis' as proven fact and look no further.

I'm maintaning two RAWS (Remote Automated Weather Stations). One is up since 1994. Data collected shows temperatures well above 50 years average and is pretty much in agreement with trends worldwide.
The surface air temperatures are rising ie there's significant warming.
Locally, we had records temps for the last 6-7 years, this spring was about 10 degrees warmer than average, and there are no signs that trend will somehow reverse.

The answers about what it means for the world in near or long term future and what is the cause of warming, is up to science to find, and I'm really sick and tired of people telling me it's a normal cycle or it's armagedon in making, polution is the cause, polution ain't the cause, or even telling me the world is cooling off.

All I know is that it affects me NOW in terms of increased energy needs/costs (measured in KWh not $$) and decreased levels of comfort during summer months.

How the climate is used for political retorhic is another matter and in the near term it won't help me cool off either.

[weaselsan]

The best rule of thumb is to learn how to catagory hurricanes in the PC (politically correct) method.
 
1.No hurricanes existed and especially catagory 4 or 5 before 1970.

2. Any hurricane that hits land in the continental US is the fault of George  
Bush.

3.Any hurricane that does not hit the continental US but meanders around and dies out or hits the Mexican coast line is Global Warming neutral. However it has become fashonable to blame it on Bush anyway.

4. The Holy Grail of PC hurricanes is, of course, Katrina. Although it was only a cat 3 always refer to it as a cat 5. While the major damage wasn't due to the hurricane but rather to the fact that New Orleans sets well below sea level with dubious protection from a weak levy system never bring that up. Always claim it was caused by George Bush waving his majic oil can over the Gulf.

5. If no major hurricanes hit the continental mainland this year credit it to the low poll numbers George Bush has.

[Hangtime]

If GWB was God, would his poll numbers be this low?

[SirLoin]

The last ten of fourteen years on this planet have been the hottest ever recoreded..The hottest being last year.

[Ripsnort]

Originally posted by SirLoin
The last ten of fourteen years on this planet have been the hottest ever recoreded..The hottest being last year.

And when did we offically begin keeping historic weather records? The past 80 years? Compare that to the planet, which is more than a billion years old....