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Offline Kazaa

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« Reply #60 on: June 17, 2006, 02:24:19 AM »
I think the panel lines on the bottom might need to stand out just a little more.



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« Reply #61 on: June 17, 2006, 11:10:47 AM »
After looking at it, I feel the same about the ones on top, too.

These images are LARGE, because if you reduce their size you lose something in regards to panel lines and rivets. I didn't want to lose any detail.

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« Reply #62 on: June 17, 2006, 11:13:18 AM »
Two minor details that I didn't know, so I'll ask here:

1) the "no walk" red outlines on the leading edge of the wings -- do they go under or over the roundels? Because they overlap a bit on the outer corner. I have them over the roundels at the moment

2) the underside image I just posted above has a cigar-shaped oil cooler, or some sort of cooler. I was sort of presuming it's supposed to be metal color. I don't know if it should be the same color as the undersurfaces.

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« Reply #63 on: June 19, 2006, 09:56:51 AM »
Krusty,

take your pick... these fonts looks better to me... although they are not the same as those on the decals.

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« Reply #64 on: June 19, 2006, 05:12:02 PM »
What's the difference? I Mean, I see the difference, but is one "casual" or one "older" or something?

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« Reply #65 on: June 19, 2006, 06:56:23 PM »
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What's the difference? I Mean, I see the difference, but is one "casual" or one "older" or something?


ahhh... one is more like script and the other is block letters... although not entirely, there are script handwriting that does not separate the letters at all.

The fonts used by Rolex is like typewriter fonts.  These are "handwritten" fonts...

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« Reply #66 on: June 19, 2006, 11:15:04 PM »
Does anybody have any pictures of other planes with any type of script on them? I'd like to see which was used. Because on a lot of western artwork, there are odd fonts, block scripts, and what-not used, to make it stylistic or to make it easier to read, and so forth. I think I'd need some real example before I could be 100% sure which to put in.

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« Reply #67 on: June 19, 2006, 11:36:09 PM »
I agree (aesthetically) with the brown over the black, if for no other reason than it almost matches the Ki61 we have in game color wise. :)
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« Reply #68 on: June 19, 2006, 11:47:52 PM »
It does??!?!?!

LOL I didn't even bother to check the Ki61s!! lmao!

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« Reply #69 on: June 20, 2006, 12:15:59 AM »
:)
Treize (pronounced 'trays')- because 'Treisprezece' is too long and even harder to pronounce.

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« Reply #70 on: June 20, 2006, 10:19:20 AM »
You're right, that is kind of close. Mine's less red-tinted and a bit darker. I wonder if they used a similar paint mixed with something else (that made it darker) on the real thing? That would support the "in-field replacement paint" theory.

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« Reply #71 on: June 20, 2006, 11:22:53 AM »
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Does anybody have any pictures of other planes with any type of script on them? I'd like to see which was used. Because on a lot of western artwork, there are odd fonts, block scripts, and what-not used, to make it stylistic or to make it easier to read, and so forth. I think I'd need some real example before I could be 100% sure which to put in.


Krusty, the letters there are akin to any lettering on the nose art that you would see, meaning that it is handwritten... I doubt that there is any fonts associated with them.  

On a side note, I am not sure how to make this out... the first photo is another plane, of 1945, of the same squad...

http://www1.ttv.ne.jp/~kikuchi3/my_page/air_JW_hayate.htm

why is this so different, I have no idea at the moment...

anyway, if you would like to reproduce the decals for your skin, why not purchasing one and use a scanner.  That is probably the best thing to do here.

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« Reply #72 on: June 20, 2006, 12:21:08 PM »
The decals were more a starting point, a set of guides to help me with the finer details. The skin is all original work.

Of the two, I like the "block" version better -- it's a bit easier to see and define. I did a quick test and getting the narrow slashes connection the different strokes didn't turn out so well because of the low resolution involved (when you only have a pixel and a half for width, it's hard to taper things, etc). So I'll leave it like I had it (for now).

On another note, the feedback has been informative, helpful, but is tapering out. In light of this, and in an attempt to get this into the next skin pack, I've submitted the skin.

I just hope nobody comes out with ground-breaking photos of the real thing that forces me to re-do it from scratch the day after it's accepted! :rofl

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« Reply #73 on: June 20, 2006, 05:05:09 PM »
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So I'll leave it like I had it (for now).


with the typewriter fonts?? oh well...

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On another note, the feedback has been informative, helpful, but is tapering out. In light of this, and in an attempt to get this into the next skin pack, I've submitted the skin.

I just hope nobody comes out with ground-breaking photos of the real thing that forces me to re-do it from scratch the day after it's accepted! :rofl


well... I did tell about that before...:)

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« Reply #74 on: June 20, 2006, 06:50:48 PM »
Of course, you're right FD.

I posted it just to make it clearer.