Author Topic: tank buster (Read 1879 times)

Tilt · « **Reply #30 on:** June 07, 2006, 08:00:08 AM »

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Originally posted by Tails
Just do what it does for ground vehicle drivers: Friendlies have icons, enemies dont.

Yeah OK I want those PTAB's for my IL2 .................and no enemy icons for anything on the ground.

enemy ground icons (gvs, parked(rolling) ac, pt boats, amphibs, troops) way to gamey IMO...............

Charge · « **Reply #31 on:** June 07, 2006, 08:06:28 AM »

Yeah, icons only for friendly GVs.

-C+

Oleg · « **Reply #32 on:** June 07, 2006, 08:18:46 AM »

Why ground icons are "gamey" but air icons are not?

And about PTAB's... 200 bombs in IL-2 which kill tiger with single hit. Overkill.

Tony Williams · « **Reply #33 on:** June 07, 2006, 09:36:08 AM »

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Originally posted by red26
I just thought the P-47 was the best with 8, 50cal guns in the wings I figured you cant go wroung:aok

You can certainly score hits with them, but penetrating the armour of a tank is a different matter...

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Angus · « **Reply #34 on:** June 07, 2006, 09:45:06 AM »

We are missing the possible tse-tse (moss with 57 mm cannon, used for anti shipping) and the B25 with 75mm (shipping department too).
Would be interesting though.....

Tilt · « **Reply #35 on:** June 07, 2006, 10:25:05 AM »

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Originally posted by Oleg
Why ground icons are "gamey" but air icons are not?

And about PTAB's... 200 bombs in IL-2 which kill tiger with single hit. Overkill.

Gamier..............ie more gamey..............or too gamey..............

GV's should be able to hide............presently they cannot..........air war is not about hiding .....................ground war often is.

Nice way to model the PTAB is to force the low level carpet technique ie open doors and release all of them (all 4 packets) or none of them. They may be very effective but (just like the JU87 - 1800kg) they are one hit wonders.

Besides given the spread they do not mean the certain death of a tiger.....but would almost certainly incapacitate one.

IMO

red26 · « **Reply #36 on:** June 07, 2006, 10:39:41 AM »

I have to go with Tilt, In the army when we would put our MLRS in the field we always put some kind of camo net over it to hide or protect it. no when we went to fire we had to move into the open. So in the game they could make it where if you are in a GV you can deploy a camo net to hide but once you take it away it will give off your title. And you should have to remove it to fire . We could not fire with a net over us it would catch on fire and burn our buts but I know from the pic's in out unit history room it showed out AA guns and out artillery both under nets. So it should be if you are under a camo net you will be under cover and the planes cant see ya but once you remove it your in the open. Plus you should not be able to fire out from under it.

Oleg · « **Reply #37 on:** June 07, 2006, 11:09:08 AM »

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Originally posted by Tilt
Nice way to model the PTAB is to force the low level carpet technique ie open doors and release all of them (all 4 packets) or none of them. They may be very effective but (just like the JU87 - 1800kg) they are one hit wonders.

Besides given the spread they do not mean the certain death of a tiger.....but would almost certainly incapacitate one.

IMO

All sources i read said single hit was enough to take any tank out of service. In most cases irreparable.
And if you drop 200 bombs at once from low alt, most probable you will score multiple hits. No need to aim, no chance to evade for tank.
Comparing with 1800kg, Ju87 much more vulnerable for both planes and gvs (than IL-2), you need at least 2-3k alt to drop bomb and you can miss anyway.

Tails · « **Reply #38 on:** June 08, 2006, 02:43:45 AM »

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Originally posted by Angus
We are missing the possible tse-tse (moss with 57 mm cannon, used for anti shipping) and the B25 with 75mm (shipping department too).
Would be interesting though.....

Tse-tse Fly will never happen. HTC doesn't want people to have something that could be used as an anti-buff sniper, and the 57mm on Tse-tse would qualify.

Angus · « **Reply #39 on:** June 08, 2006, 03:54:32 AM »

That's a pity. So, never the Scrage muzik either, or a solid nose B25

Tails · « **Reply #40 on:** June 09, 2006, 11:14:59 AM »

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Originally posted by Angus
That's a pity. So, never the Scrage muzik either, or a solid nose B25

If I recall, Scrage Muzik was a normal set of MG-151/20's firing 45 degrees upwards. Cant see any reason those could not be added.
Solid nose B-25 could also happen, but likely only in the form of a B-25J. 75mm-armed B-25G/H might not happen.