B17G Ruby's Raiders

[Reynolds]

Awww. I was kind of hoping for 'Sally B', and a Memphis Belle would be nice. You know what would be cool? If they made it so you could create your own skin a lot easier! Like, they give you the model, and you just paste in colors, and add a nose art picture and tail pic, that way everyone has a unique skin, and we arent all Memphis Belle, or Nine of Nine. Wouldnt that be awesome? And it shouldnt be TOO hard to do... just a lot of programming. But it would be awesome!

[Lord ReDhAwK]

Personally, I enjoy all the work that goes into each skin I make.  I like making my panel lines and rivets.  Everyones is always different and variety is the spice of life.  I cant count the number of threads on correct rivet layout, panel lines are wrong, lights on the underside of the 51 wing are on the other wing, ect.

Ruby is a perfect example of this.  In actuality, the B17 being such a large bird,  rivets would NEVER be seen.  More specifically, they would be so small in comparison that a 1x pixel dot is way to large.  Therefore, Krusty has elected not to model them.  Some agree with that choice and some may not.  However, the skinner made the decision and has added another variety to the mix.  

With all the time and effort each skinner puts into the work, never in combat, have I looked to see the individual rivets on the enemy aircraft

Don't think this is a jab at you as I personally dont know you but the text will sound harsh but I dont mean it that way.  If you would like to see a specific Olive Drab 17 flying then dont wait on us.  Make yourself a template and get to skinnin.  Every member on this board will be very happy to help you out.  

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[Reynolds]

Okay, then, ill do it! I need lots of help though. I dont know where to start

But i do have some real good up-close photos of the Sally B. Ill do that one, but i need someone to help walk me through it. And, will HiTech mind if there is a naked woman on the nose?

[Guppy35]

Just remember that "Sally B' is not a historical paint job if that's one you were thinking of.  And of course Memphis Belle was an F model not a G.

[Reynolds]

You sure Sally B isnt historical?

[Guppy35]

Originally posted by Reynolds
You sure Sally B isnt historical?

Quoting from Sally B's website:
http://sallyb.dcgservices.com/history_frameset.php

"Businessman and pilot, Ted White brought F-BGSR to Britain via Biggin Hill to the Imperial War Museum (IWM), Duxford, as N17TE, in March 1975, to begin a new life as Sally B, named after Ted’s long-time companion Elly Sallingboe. Sally B made her debut at the 1975 Biggin Hill Air Fair, flying as the USAAF World War Two Memorial Flight. The struggle to operate Sally B successfully in this important role had begun."


Yep, absolutely non historical.   If you look at the photos, She's a G model, wearing codes she wore for her work in the Memphis Belle movie.  There are no bars to the star and circle and she has DF-A of the 91st BG on her sides, which were the codes for Memphis Belle.  Interestingly she still retains the F model top turret installed for Memphis Belle, yet has the nose turret of the G.

She also carries Memphis Belle nose art on her right side with Sally B on the left.

And she originally wore 457th markings when she was still all silver prior to Memphis Belle, the movie.

[Reynolds]

Oh. Okay, thanks. I learned something new! Any other nice Olive Drabs?

[Guppy35]

Nope, Sally B is the only 17 operating in England.  "Pink Lady" operating out of France sometimes flies alongside her.  I saw them both at Legends last July.  Interestingly enough "Pink Lady" (another ficticious name) has an actual history as an 8th AF Pathfinder aircraft, right at the end of the war.  Sadly they've not taken her back to her wartime markings.

[Reynolds]

But there IS another 17 in America that flies as both 9 of 9 and Sally B, though i think they lost her in a fire a year or two ago. I have seen pics of them flying side by side. Forget where though... but yeah, thanks! I learned something new!

[Reynolds]

Are there any other Olive Drabs with very SMALL nose art?

[Guppy35]

Trust me on this one  Only one Sally B.

909 is the Collings Foundation bird that flies the country regularly.  The CAF has Texas Ranger (Grounded at the moment)  They also have Sentimental Journey that flies in natural metal 457th BG markings.

Yankee Air Force has "Yankee Lady"
Also flying are Dave Tallichet's "Memphis Belle"
Doc Hosper's "Chuckie"
EAA "Aluminum Overcast
Evergreen Museums B17G (unnamed)
B17G Fuddy Duddy (just changed ownership)
The newly restored "Liberty Belle" has been flying about a year.

Paul Allen has a B17E he's restoring to flight.
There is a B17F that is flyable, but not flown called "Boeing B"
The well known "Swamp Ghost" a B17E that was sitting intact in a swamp in New Guiniea was just recovered and on it's way home.

And there are lots of gate guardians and museum birds, as well as the original Memphis Belle and another combat vet B17G Shoo Shoo Baby at the AF Museum.  And the NASM has the B17D "The Swoose"

Throw in the recovered and restored to static "My Gal Sal" B17E and one recovered a while back from a Canadian river that is being restored along with a couple others and you've got it for B17s.  At least what I can recall off the top of my head  There are a couple more in museums in England too

[Guppy35]

Originally posted by Reynolds
Are there any other Olive Drabs with very SMALL nose art?

Jeez, how many do ya want?  Can bury ya in profiles and photos of OD B17Gs with nose art, small or large

[Reynolds]

Im obsesive. Ill take as many as you have patience to give!

[Kazaa]

Krusty, that looks a lot better now.

In the other pictures the dust looked too stright & 1 shade. (to perfect)

But it's a lot better now

[gatt]

Yes, its good! ...................... Now start with the 205