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Offline Sparks

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« Reply #30 on: June 12, 2006, 11:41:58 PM »
I would have thought market forces would have sorted this by now.  Expected the medical insurance companies would have a BMI accelerator on the premium - sort of like no claims bonus for your car but in reverse.  Slightly fat, that's 50% extra please - really quite fat, make that 100% - oh my god fat, get your own insurance and if you have a heart attack you lose your house.
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« Reply #31 on: June 13, 2006, 12:00:12 AM »
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I would have thought market forces would have sorted this by now.  Expected the medical insurance companies would have a BMI accelerator.


They will sort it out when they can be sure that nobody sues them for discrimination. People aren't fat, they're just born bigger :rolleyes:
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Offline Debonair

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« Reply #32 on: June 13, 2006, 01:59:35 AM »
i think we all know where hamburgers come from.
they come from ranchers, people who live out in the middle of nowwhere & carry guns.
probably the toughest guys in the country to regulate.
enjoy your $50 black market burger from a dairy cow that keeled over a month ago from mad cow & was then smuggled to you & occasionally refrigerated (maybe)...

...but i have another way

tax defecation
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Offline Nilsen

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« Reply #33 on: June 13, 2006, 02:38:08 AM »
I think you will find that one group of people are more "at risk" of getting fat. You all know who im talking about. Now... would a tax on crap food work on them or not? Would education and access to better work better?

We have taxes on snacks and junk food.. kinda. Healty "normal" food that people need have less tax and junk has normal tax. If it has worked or not is hard to say but there has been a slight increase in the weight of the younger generation. Thankfully it looks like the trend is turning towards more healty food among the young folks and fish and salads are now trendy has heck. The sales of bottled sugar (or cola as its sometimes called) is going down fast and bottled water has been trendy for years now and still growing strong.

If I had a say I would simply leave the taxes and stuff here as they are. because the trends are going the right way so are the fast food industy. McDonalds and Burger King now sell more salads and sammiches than they sell fries. Nothing wrong with properly cooked meat/burgers. Its the freedom fries that gets to you.
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Offline Pei

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« Reply #34 on: June 13, 2006, 06:11:09 AM »
Using taxation as a tool for social engineering = BAD.
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Offline lazs2

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« Reply #35 on: June 13, 2006, 09:20:49 AM »
they are running out of ciggarette money and they are starting to jones...

You don't cut these people off their tax fix cold turkey.

lazs
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« Reply #36 on: June 13, 2006, 09:33:51 AM »
Justify it any way you want, but government regulation of personal diet would be a slippery slope.

Where would it stop?  

Sunflower seeds?  Can't have them...too much salt.

Mashed potatoes with sweet milk gravy.  Strictly taboo.

Ribeye steaks?  Too much fat...but you can have it if ya eat only four ounces of it.

Fried fish?  You gotta be kiddin'.

Grilled or smoked meat of any kind.  Well...okay...but only once a month.
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« Reply #37 on: June 13, 2006, 10:06:38 AM »
but... they allready do.  booze is taxed... smokes are taxed... drugs are regulated as are vitamins.

We are allready on the slippery slope.   The only way to get off it is to say.... "no more"   not one more freedom taken away or one new tax.  No matter how small or how many "lives it will save" or "money it will save"

We need mind our own business and quit trying to punish and penalize anyone who does something you don't want to do at the moment you vote.

We need to quit getting suckered into bigger and bigger and more intrusive government.

I was actually shocked in the last election here in kalifornia the other day when two huge tax increases for "worthy" causes were soundly defeated.

maybe people are waking up...

But then... I see guys thinking that socialist tax and spender kinky is running in Texas....

lazs
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a lack of exercise tax instead
« Reply #38 on: June 13, 2006, 10:27:46 AM »
we can eat whatever we want .. they just need to tax us if we DON'T exercise properly :)
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« Reply #39 on: June 13, 2006, 11:23:08 AM »
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They do the same thing with cigarettes and alcohol.

I don't hear any complaints.


Here's a complaint then. Since they decided to wrongfully pin the fault of people dying from smoking related illness on the tobacco companies the price of cigs has nearly doubled. Some of that is extra tax by  overly intrusive state governments that see taxing as a way to discourage people from buying smokes. The other obviously is the costs of these settlements are passed on to us consumers. I've smoked for 15 years. I've always known the risks. Isn't it bad enough that the governments WRONGFULLY tell business owners they aren't allowed to let people smoke inside PRIVATE establishments?

So what now. They will have designated fast food eating areas, so none of the calories are transmitted through the air to "Healthy People" ? Lets make it too expensive to eat fast food and destroy an entire sector of the economy in the name of a "Healthy" population.

What I eat and even how I eat it is no business of the Government.

WE NEED TO TAKE OUR COUNTRY BACK FOLKS!
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« Reply #40 on: June 13, 2006, 11:29:53 AM »
Smoking has been banned for 2 years now here in resturants and bars. The business took a dive for a couple of months but are now back to normal, and some are even doing better than before. Even the majority of the smokers thinks it was a good idea. Never has so many quit smoking here either.. tobacco sales are down.

Im not sure about the statistics over in Britain. They started.. or atleast Ireland was first with the ban i belive.
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« Reply #41 on: June 13, 2006, 11:31:22 AM »
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What I eat and even how I eat it is no business of the Government.
 


I'll argue that if the government is paying for your health care, what you eat is indeed the "business of the government."
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« Reply #42 on: June 13, 2006, 11:33:40 AM »
Just because a Government attains it goals, and the sheep in the population turn and look the other way or just ride along, doesn't make it right.

I don't know about your rights over there, but we USED to have property rights in the USA. Before the Government started using our constitution as toilet paper.
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« Reply #43 on: June 13, 2006, 11:36:01 AM »
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I'll argue that if the government is paying for your health care, what you eat is indeed the "business of the government."


I'll agree. I was speaking as a general citizen. I am in the Military so Constitutional rights don't apply to me. So if they ordered me to stop I would have no choice. However that would be hard to do since the chow I'm served on the ship or at the galley is probrably less healthy than eating fast food.
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« Reply #44 on: June 13, 2006, 11:45:56 AM »
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I'll argue that if the government is paying for your health care, what you eat is indeed the "business of the government."


Which is a pretty damn good argument against socialized health care!
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