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Offline Angus

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« Reply #15 on: June 16, 2006, 07:34:16 PM »
Oh FYI there were also Spit VIII's with the Merlin 70.
Not sure if those were the expanded winged ones or more.
A performance quote I have for VIII's operating in the trop - India, - is top speed 420 mph and a ROC from start to 20K in 5 minutes.
The measured specs I have are a tad lower - but good.
It was very interesting to carry out the flight trials at Rechlin with the Spitfire and the Hurricane. Both types are very simple to fly compared to our aircraft, and childishly easy to take-off and land. (Werner Mölders)

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« Reply #16 on: June 16, 2006, 09:57:58 PM »
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Only by those that think certain planes are "dweebish".  Those people can be easily identified by posts such as yours and are usually the result from the lack of ability to fight against the "dweebish" planes.  Basically, you're the dweeb and not the Spitfire driver.



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« Reply #17 on: June 17, 2006, 02:04:52 AM »
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Originally posted by Angus
Oh FYI there were also Spit VIII's with the Merlin 70.
Not sure if those were the expanded winged ones or more.
A performance quote I have for VIII's operating in the trop - India, - is top speed 420 mph and a ROC from start to 20K in 5 minutes.
The measured specs I have are a tad lower - but good.


Merlin 70 ones generally got the extended tips, BUT as with clipped wings it's a crap shoot.
Wouldn't surprise me to find pics of the same aircraft at different time periods with different tips.

Good e.g is the HF VII's, by D-Day they had been refitted with standard tips. Pic's of both exist.

Seems to be the later on the war, the rarer extended tips became due to the air war for the RAF moving to much lower alts, conversely clipping became more common.
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« Reply #18 on: June 26, 2006, 11:06:31 PM »
Disclaimer:  Not a flame, just a question...

Are the Spits in the game generally porked a little?  I've been reading up on them and seeing things like 18" of boost instead of 15" for the IX.  I've seen some with Spit XIV using 25" boost.  Also, I've seen stats for the V, VIII, IX, and XIV that are showing uber rates of climb.  Like the XIV showing around 5000 fpm down low.  This was all British test data I found on the web.  Some dated as soon as 1943 for the IX with a 4200 fpm rate of climb.  Ours doesn't even approach that.

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« Reply #19 on: June 27, 2006, 12:09:23 AM »
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Disclaimer:  Not a flame, just a question...

Are the Spits in the game generally porked a little?  I've been reading up on them and seeing things like 18" of boost instead of 15" for the IX.  I've seen some with Spit XIV using 25" boost.  Also, I've seen stats for the V, VIII, IX, and XIV that are showing uber rates of climb.  Like the XIV showing around 5000 fpm down low.  This was all British test data I found on the web.  Some dated as soon as 1943 for the IX with a 4200 fpm rate of climb.  Ours doesn't even approach that.


We have -
12lbs for the Ia
12lbs for the V
15lbs for the F IX
18lbs everthing else.

We used to have the 16lbs Vc
Max used on the Ia was 12lbs - no change (just prior to B.o.B.)
Max used on the VIII was 18lbs - no change (from manufacture mid 1943)
Max used on the LF IXc was from May 1944 - 25lbs
Max used on XVI was 25lbs -  from Dec 1944, BUT as the XVI is also the LF IXe would be 25lbs from July 1944.
Max used on the XIV was from July 1944 - 21lbs

When you say IX, you have to draw the difference between the F IX, LF IX and HF IX.

Guess they feel any max boosted Spits wouldn't be fair.
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« Reply #20 on: June 27, 2006, 12:13:29 AM »
Yea the 5 min of supa boost is just way to unbalancing.  :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

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« Reply #21 on: June 27, 2006, 12:55:05 AM »
Thanks Kev...

I knew you could clear that up for me...

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« Reply #22 on: June 27, 2006, 04:13:47 AM »
Note one thing on the VIII. It has much more internal fuel. So, with the same gallons, the performance differences will be more in it's favour.
It was very interesting to carry out the flight trials at Rechlin with the Spitfire and the Hurricane. Both types are very simple to fly compared to our aircraft, and childishly easy to take-off and land. (Werner Mölders)