Author Topic: Former WWII Onliners? (Read 2496 times)

Obear1971 · « **Reply #30 on:** June 20, 2006, 09:39:37 AM »

First off, the apauling launch of WWIIonline 5 years ago is compleatly irelavent. Its nothing like the game it was back then and its just pointless going on about it.

The developers know it was a disaster launch, everyone that played knows is was a disaster launch. nuff said.

I played Aces High for 3 years and to try and compair the 2 games is pointless as well. they are totally diffrent except for the fact that they both are circa WWII and have aircraft in them.

Aces High is a WWII online flight sim that is all about the air combat and not about being historical. Spits against Spits, 109 against 110's (bar the special maps)

WWIIonline is a combined arms WWII sim and is all about the historical. which is why some say "Axis is biase" No its not its just most folk are used to perfectly balanced equipment like in AH where you can go 190 against 190. WWII was not about balance and in the early years the Axis DID have an advantage, but the guys at WWIIonline did a good job trying to get the early yeasr as balanced as possible. Your supposed to use your equipments strenghts.

WWIIonline has come along is huge leaps and bounds, there are no longer ditches along every road, FPS is far better (i get 50 on avarage over a large town in a large battle) Graphic wise, just like AH they have limits due to the large viewing areas, but again has come on in leap and bounds.

WWIIonline is a VERY good MMOWWIIsim, even the reviewers on many sites and magazines are giving WWIIonline 8 out of ten, which when you realise it is a very niech market is a real good score.

Aces high is prob the best WWII air combat sim there is.
WWIIonline is the best combined arms WWII sim there is.

Is AH fligh model better than WWIIOnline? depends who you talk to. For me you never seem to be flying at any speed in AH, in WWIIonine you really zoom along the contryside.

As for the track IR thing, WWIIonline has had track IR support for ages

If you want to whack WWIIonline, fine, but at least have a more up to date opinion that 3 yeasr ago.

I poped back in here to see how AH 2 is looking, nice to see the same miss-informed opinions are still rife on the boards.

You can donwload the whole game and practise offline for nothing, at least do that before you rubbish there efforts.

Grendel · « **Reply #31 on:** June 20, 2006, 10:27:35 AM »

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Originally posted by Kurt
I played it from release day for about 1 month... It was sooooo buggy in those days though..

That game depresses me...

So you played it for one month, five years ago?
If you intend to give it bad rep, why don't you go and see what the game is TODAY like, and not whine about things FIVE YEARS ago.

AH was pretty much crap in the beginning, too.

mars01 · « **Reply #32 on:** June 20, 2006, 10:28:37 AM »

LOL I find it funny every now and again you get WWIIOnline guys in here defending it. I wonder if the WWII online guys ever have anyone from AH on their boards defending AH. LOLH

Grendel · « **Reply #33 on:** June 20, 2006, 10:32:00 AM »

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I played and quit. That game suckes so bad it wasnt funny. Gave heavily favors axis

Especiallly today, when everything from equipment costs to the modeling is heavily biased towards the Allies. Axis equipment never had any significant advantages, which was easy to see if you played both sides at any quantity. These days the biasing has gone so far that Axis players are dropping out and thinning, so we'll see how long the game will be out there, with players for one side only.

Sres · « **Reply #34 on:** June 20, 2006, 10:39:18 AM »

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Originally posted by Obear1971
As for the track IR thing, WWIIonline has had track IR support for ages

Frankly the TrackIR support was a gesture in wwiiol, it's pretty lame, they've had the guys from TrackIR trying to get them to incorporate it fully (if you read the TrackIR forums) to no avail.

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Originally posted by mars01
LOL I find it funny every now and again you get WWIIOnline guys in here defending it. I wonder if the WWII online guys ever have anyone from AH on their boards defending AH. LOLH

Nope, AH is rarely mentioned, maybe in the Hanger forums (though I don't go there for fear of being BnZ'd

. I only picked up on this thread because someone else posted about it in the Barracks and I thought I'd check it out.

Sres · « **Reply #35 on:** June 20, 2006, 10:40:25 AM »

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Originally posted by Grendel
Especiallly today, when everything from equipment costs to the modeling is heavily biased towards the Allies. Axis equipment never had any significant advantages, which was easy to see if you played both sides at any quantity. These days the biasing has gone so far that Axis players are dropping out and thinning, so we'll see how long the game will be out there, with players for one side only.

Is there really need to bring WWiiOL politics to AH forums?

Grendel · « **Reply #36 on:** June 20, 2006, 11:14:59 AM »

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Originally posted by mars01
LOL I find it funny every now and again you get WWIIOnline guys in here defending it. I wonder if the WWII online guys ever have anyone from AH on their boards defending AH. LOLH

When I was there earlier, yes, there were constantly discussions about flight sims in the Hangar section of the forums. What's so surprising in that? People are always interested about and talking about various sims. What LOL is in that?

Besides, what makes you think that these are "WWIIONline guys in here defending"? Has it ever occurred to you that some people fly several flight simulators or are interested in aviation generally, and haven't married to any single flight sim? Hint: many people read several different boards, games or aviation, and also like several different simulators.

Basides, it would be more worrysome if misconceptions wouldn't been corrected or information wouldn't be shared, mmm?

Grendel · « **Reply #37 on:** June 20, 2006, 11:25:19 AM »

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Originally posted by Sres
Is there really need to bring WWiiOL politics to AH forums?

Well, he said something that was effectively incorrect, so that needed correction. And the player base has been on steady decrease, with fewer and fewer people bothering to play, with the very biased gameplay and extremerely low development speed. Can't help it.

WW2O has its good sides, which is in theory very good ground war and ground war simulator, but I won't be touching its airplanes anymore.

Before the launch they said WW2OL will be a full blown, topnotch realistic flight sim.

These days it got P-38s that can land VTOL style - vertically.

I'd take its gunnery and ballistics modeling any day to AH2, though.

Obear1971 · « **Reply #38 on:** June 20, 2006, 12:03:59 PM »

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Originally posted by mars01
LOL I find it funny every now and again you get WWIIOnline guys in here defending it. I wonder if the WWII online guys ever have anyone from AH on their boards defending AH. LOLH

Why is it funny? Its not a question of DEFENDING WWIIonline, if you really want to think WWIIOnline sucks hard, fine, im not botherd i dont need to to like it or play it.

Im just pointing out that the comments made are mostly fiction or grossly outdated and that other may want to check it out knowing its not like this.

As for AH on WWIIonline forums, yes it gets mentioned now and gain. but no one has to defend it. Last post was what good parts of AH would be nice in WWIIonline. I posted that i would like to see the AH voice comms in WWIIonline.

Your the one that seems to have a "them/Us" attitude.

Plus i am a old Aces High player. Im not a WWIIonline guy, im a games player.

mars01 · « **Reply #39 on:** June 20, 2006, 12:13:00 PM »

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When I was there earlier, yes, there were constantly discussions about flight sims in the Hangar section of the forums. What's so surprising in that? People are always interested about and talking about various sims. What LOL is in that?

I guess you and Sres need to get on the same page. He says rarely if any and you say all the time LOLH.

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Besides, what makes you think that these are "WWIIONline guys in here defending"? Has it ever occurred to you that some people fly several flight simulators or are interested in aviation generally, and haven't married to any single flight sim? Hint: many people read several different boards, games or aviation, and also like several different simulators.

Dont get your blood pressure up too high now. So you are saying you don't play and havn't played WWIIOnline? I think not. I do think it is F2343ing hysterical that you are in here defending WWII Online. That is most definitely the LOL.

Do you really think you are going to get people to switch from here? You yourself said WWII Online is not a flight sim

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WW2O has its good sides, which is in theory very good ground war and ground war simulator, but I won't be touching its airplanes anymore.

so the following doesn't even apply..."Has it ever occurred to you that some people fly several flight simulators or are interested in aviation generally, and haven't married to any single flight sim?"

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Basides, it would be more worrysome if misconceptions wouldn't been corrected or information wouldn't be shared, mmm?

Worrysome for who? We all know WWIIOnline blows as a flight sim. Maybe if this was a Medal Of Honor BB you would have something to defend, but it's not.

mars01 · « **Reply #40 on:** June 20, 2006, 12:16:21 PM »

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Why is it funny? Its not a question of DEFENDING WWIIonline, if you really want to think WWIIOnline sucks hard, fine, im not botherd i dont need to to like it or play it.

It is funny, I really don't see guys from AH giving a crap to go to WWIIO boards, but every now and again WWIIO show up here. To me that is funny. It's obviouse they are missing something.

SunKing · « **Reply #41 on:** June 20, 2006, 12:18:50 PM »

My comments are not outdated.

The same bugs that made me leave when I 1st tried the game where there 3 months ago.

Mainly the...

32 viewed player issue. Randomly appearing enemies constantly. The plane engines cutting in and out as they randomly appear is utter annoyance.

Solider clipping through any object.

Typical fanboi defense. Then you attack AH with your assumptions, saying its not historical ect. There is more than just the Main Arena to this game and whats coming.

I like both games and I really wanted WW2OL to work. The concept is amazing and one day hopefully it will. I will always try the next trial.

FiLtH · « **Reply #42 on:** June 20, 2006, 02:55:27 PM »

ya..having 200 players fighting in an area where you can only see some of them really irked me. Thats why I mainly stuck to the air. But then there, the 109s were always used up and I did more flying to a fight than fighting. Just alot of hassle to go and shoot someone down.

Brooke · « **Reply #43 on:** June 20, 2006, 03:41:44 PM »

I think the graphics look quite good in WWIIOL. I like it as an all-around WWII sim, and I don't seem to see any any of the bugs others are talking about. Also, the flight dynamics seem good.

What I don't like is the view system for aircraft in WWIIOL (total lack of ability to see behind you and the annoying way icons work in the air).

As another poster stated, they are very different sims. Aces High is where I spend by far more of my time (about 100 times more), but I enjoy them both for different aspects of play (and I enjoy Battlefield 1942 for yet different game play).

Charge · « **Reply #44 on:** June 21, 2006, 03:18:50 AM »

"Typical fanboi defense"

Thats right Sunking. Goes both ways.

The engines don't cun out randomly. Actually the engine behaviour is in some cases better modelled in WW2OL (neg G cutout, overheating, engine damage).

The enemies are not appearing randomly, but in the air the player limit does tricks occacionally as the faster planes are harder to track for the servers.

Soldiers do not clip through objects.

I agree with Obear that the flying feels more like flying in WW2OL, although the modelling leaves a lot to be desired, but as it is more a combined arms game the plane set is made to be more balanced than accurate in performance.

As was already said AH is better aircombat simulator, but sometimes it is nice to grab a rifle and go hunting some enemy infantry.

-C+