Author Topic: Waco: The Rules of Engagement  (Read 886 times)

Offline lukster

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« on: June 23, 2006, 09:40:02 PM »
Don't know how I missed seeing this documentary for so long. I always figured the government screwed up royally in Waco but I had no idea. I'm stunned.

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« Reply #1 on: June 23, 2006, 09:43:24 PM »
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OK..let er rip.........................a gain. :)

The "they were doing their job" crew will be here shortly I`m sure.
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« Reply #2 on: June 23, 2006, 09:50:46 PM »
sometimes people are faced with setuations that they`re aren`t prepared to deal with....they can`t always  be expected to do the right thing. We can only hope, they  have the best intention to do right thing. Dealing with zealots ain`t easy....

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« Reply #3 on: June 23, 2006, 10:02:29 PM »
If the FBI did what it looked like they did in that documentary then they committed cruel premeditated murder. If you haven't seen the documentary then you don't know what I'm talking about. Near the end it appears that there are two agents firing into the burning building with automatic weapons. the FBI claims that they never fired a shot.

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« Reply #4 on: June 23, 2006, 10:36:16 PM »
That was Federal extremism to the extreme.

If they wanted Koresh they could have easily taken him in town or while out jogging.

Law enforcement had been invited into the compound before too.

That amount of force was unnecessary and there's really no defending it.
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« Reply #5 on: June 23, 2006, 10:52:42 PM »
the ATF was about to be absorbed into the FBI, so to prove that they were still needed as a separate bureaucracy the AFT decided to make a show of how good they were, they invited the media( thats how koresh found out about the raid), the AFT called the raid "operation showtime".

after the ATF blew it the FBI took over, they borrowed the armored vehicles from the national guard by claiming it was a drug bust. otherwise the FBI could not have used the guard, (posse comitatus).

the FBI said they had to act because it was going on too long and they had to end it.

years before, the indian stand off at wounded knee went on much longer and no more people died at wounded knee because the president at that time sent in a army general to take charge and his orders from the president was to settle it without loss of life.

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« Reply #6 on: June 23, 2006, 11:03:56 PM »
Different presidents for the two stand-offs:  different mind-sets, which influenced their respective staffs and the heads of the agencies appointed by them.

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« Reply #7 on: June 23, 2006, 11:09:52 PM »
Be careful if you wish for the complete and undivided attention of the federal government. You just might get it.
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« Reply #8 on: June 24, 2006, 02:59:07 AM »
where do I put in a request for their 'complete and undivided attention' on the subject of leaving us all the hell alone and keeping their corrupt theiving politicians hands outta the till without getting gassed, sniped, BBQ'd and crushed?
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« Reply #9 on: June 24, 2006, 08:33:16 AM »
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where do I put in a request for their 'complete and undivided attention' on the subject of leaving us all the hell alone and keeping their corrupt theiving politicians hands outta the till without getting gassed, sniped, BBQ'd and crushed?


If ya find out, let me know.

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« Reply #10 on: June 24, 2006, 09:25:24 AM »
yep... even ol klinton admitted that it was the biggest mistake of his presidency.

I don't see how the killing of all those innocent women and children has been taken so lightly for so long.

Not a violent criminal in the whole "compound" (church).... the local sherrif was over many times and said that the people were weird but harmless...

There is a lot of evidence that the feds fired the first shots and the last shots.  

What we have done about Waco is a blot on the history of the U.S. to me.

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« Reply #11 on: June 24, 2006, 10:41:36 AM »
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« Reply #12 on: June 24, 2006, 10:53:38 AM »
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sometimes people are faced with setuations that they`re aren`t prepared to deal with....they can`t always  be expected to do the right thing. We can only hope, they  have the best intention to do right thing. Dealing with zealots ain`t easy....


Hmmmm......maybe you could relate that to some of our Liberal friends about our proud fighting men in Iraq.

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« Reply #13 on: June 24, 2006, 03:01:04 PM »
FBI = Famous But Incompetent.

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« Reply #14 on: June 24, 2006, 05:49:32 PM »
I mean, If you've done nothing wrong, you have nothing to fear, right?

We definately deserve the government we get....