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LJK Raubvogel

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« Reply #30 on: November 03, 2000, 02:53:00 PM »
RAM- so you think that when a candidate starts to campaign, he should have a press conference and tell the world every little detail of his life, and every thing he has ever done wrong? That is simply ridiculous.



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« Reply #31 on: November 03, 2000, 02:57:00 PM »
 
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RAM- so you think that when a candidate starts to campaign, he should have a press conference and tell the world every little detail of his life, and every thing he has ever done wrong? That is simply ridiculous.



If he says he is the apex of integrity?. Sure. Not all his minor faults, but I understand that driving drunk is a felony, right?...

And no need to be harsh. You have your views, I have mine's  

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« Reply #32 on: November 03, 2000, 02:59:00 PM »
 
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This is the hardest thing a governor has to do if his state enforces the death penalty. They do not take it light heartedly. My grandfather, my namesake, had 1st hand experience in this matter. Governor of Ohio, 1959-63. His book "Power of Life and Death" is an excellent read concerning the issue.
 

Eagler...well, Bush never showed too much problems about the problem, and he has said several times that he supports death penalty. I have my views on that particular matter, nothing else  

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« Reply #33 on: November 03, 2000, 03:39:00 PM »
Taken from cnn online:

"Karen Hughes, chief spokeswoman for Republican presidential candidate George W. Bush, accused Democrats today of leaking the story of his arrest 24 years ago in Maine for driving under the influence of alcohol and called it a "last-minute dirty trick." Tom Connolly, who ran unsuccessfully as a Democrat for governor of Maine in 1998 and was a Gore delegate to the party's nominating convention in Los Angeles this year, said he gave the information about the arrest to a reporter because "it makes me a good citizen." He said he has had no contact with the Gore campaign about the arrest."

Let the media frenzy begin!

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« Reply #34 on: November 03, 2000, 04:38:00 PM »
If he says he is the apex of integrity?. Sure. Not all his minor faults, but I understand that driving drunk is a felony, right?...
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It was a class D misdemeanor at the time.

Apparently Geedubya was driving too sloo and got pulled over hehe.....

Most Americans have had a direct impact from alcohol in their lives at one point or another.

I just read the CNN report about the guy from Maine who found this out and reported it.  A total democratic hack dweeb.  He was a Democratic candidate for governor of Main and was a Democratic delegate from Main at the 2000 DNC convention.  He said it was *his duty* to bring this up now.

Garbage...

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« Reply #35 on: November 03, 2000, 06:46:00 PM »
 
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He couldda killed someone.


 Ted Kenedy did kill some one...

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« Reply #36 on: November 03, 2000, 07:12:00 PM »
Yeah. See my point?  .

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« Reply #37 on: November 04, 2000, 09:24:00 AM »
 
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Is the timing of the story relevant, or is it just that Americans are entitled to know the whole truth about a political candidate?


I am curious to know how many people do think it is relevant; I am confident that this will play out in the next few days.  I am curious to see how long the media holds onto this one.

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 I think it's relevant in the fact that Gore has to resort to this in the last 5 days of the campain.  I'm sure it was planned long ago.  Ripsnort and I were talking at the Con and I told him I wondered what this election's "October suprise" would be.  It's realy simple, this kind of tactic is part of the clinton playbook.  I also think that Bush has played this right.  If he had "leaked" this out last year or 6 months ago Gore's hitmen would have pounded him on the issue everyday.

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 And don't think Gore didn't know about this...

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« Reply #38 on: November 04, 2000, 10:15:00 AM »
What Udie, Gore said he had nothing to do with it. What, you don't believe Gore? You think Gore lies? I bet you a lot of people think the same way, if he'd resort to something this low and with his established record for lying, no one can now believe him when he says he had nothing to do with this latest scum ball tactic. Funny, maybe it'll help point this fact out to others and in the end really backfire on handsomehunkcrats.
Yeah, I want a leader who'll condone this type of campaign. Local radio was flooded with callers (democrats) saying they are switching to Gore because of this issue. What a load of crap! If Gore does pull it out, it'll just be testimony of how down right stupid, gullible and uninformed the average American is. It'll be a sad day for the nation as well.

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« Reply #39 on: November 04, 2000, 08:32:00 PM »
Quote from cnn online.... (Connolly is the person who "broke" the story to a reporter)

"Connolly said the information made its way to him Thursday from an undisclosed Maine Democratic Party official, who heard it from a chiropractor, who in turn said an elderly patient told him of the arrest. Connolly received a call about the arrest while at Biddeford District Court, as the Fox reporter was standing nearby."

That qoute is better than a soap opera!  "I heard from my wife, who heard from her friend, who heard from her hairdresser, who heard from her Sears repairman....."    

I suppose if the chain goes back far enough, you can't track who is really trying to smear Mr. Bush?  

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« Reply #40 on: November 04, 2000, 09:31:00 PM »
Well RAM, what's there to say that Bush didn't plan on revealing this as part of the campaign? Seems like he has the most to gain from it anyway...


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« Reply #41 on: November 04, 2000, 09:52:00 PM »
Ram, Driving while under the influence of alchohol in the USA is NOT a felony. It is only what is called a "misdemeanor" in the US. Most first offenders do not serve jail time, and are allowed to keep their driving licenses. They usually get a heavy fine, and costs for attorney fees and everything can total 4-5 thousand dollars.

I understand the penalties in other countries are far more severe.
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« Reply #42 on: November 05, 2000, 02:06:00 PM »
A DUI charge 24 years ago is A LOT easier to admit than having an affair with a 22 year old woman in the Oval Office.  Especially when you have a daughter who is well old enough to fully comprehend all it entails.

If Bush is so honest, why won't he address questions relating to his use of Cocaine?  8 years ago you republicans made such a big deal about Clinton once smoking pot. Now that a Republican has a shot at it, you welcome him and his drug & alchohol infested past with open arms.  A little hypocritcal, no?  Typical.

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« Reply #43 on: November 05, 2000, 03:56:00 PM »
8 years ago you republicans made such a big deal about Clinton once smoking pot.
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Igloo,

Most Americans could care less that bubba smoked dope during college.  What people didnt like was the infantile denial via the *I didnt inhale* plea (which is just one measely example of the mans inbred capacity to be blatantly dishonest).  If Geedubya lied in any way about the DUI, rather than not answering, then he is in big trouble!
And rightfully so!

Also, you make the typical mistake of politically ignorant people (not meant as a personal slam, just an observation on my part) that the President is somehow totally responsible for anything good, as well as anything bad, that happens as a result of policy initiated at the federal government level.

To say that a democratic president is solely responsible for the excellent economy, when both houses of congress have been under republican control for the last 6 out of 8 years, is typical liberalistic socialist demagoguery.

You need to understand something here igloo, the President must work with congress to hammer out compromise legislation.  They both MUST agree to pass ANYTHING into law!  Do you understand this?

Bush is right when he says the economy is the result of the resourcefulness of the American people *in spite* of the government!

I am in agreement with Bush.

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« Reply #44 on: November 05, 2000, 07:14:00 PM »
Of course you are.  You're republican.