Author Topic: North Korea launches missle into Sea of Japan (Read 1269 times)

Sixpence · « **Reply #15 on:** July 04, 2006, 09:14:02 PM »

lol, damn, scale that pic down

dmf · « **Reply #16 on:** July 04, 2006, 09:54:41 PM »

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Originally posted by Maverick
Again, look at the article. There is no information that it was the ICBM they had on the pad. It very well could have been a lesser missle. Interesting they chose today for the launch.

Don't have to read it again, I saw it on the news, it wasn't the big one.

expat · « **Reply #17 on:** July 04, 2006, 10:32:11 PM »

North Korean ICBM Launch Instructions
Light blue touch paper and stand well back

EagleEyes · « **Reply #18 on:** July 04, 2006, 10:43:40 PM »

Its just the fact that they have launched missiles. In '94 if i remember right, they only launched 1, and just today they launched 6+. I know its not a big deal that they landed in the Sea of Japan, but think if they had hit Japan, South Korea, or the US West Coast. Its just the fact that they launched the missiles in the first place. Dont forget the world turned its back on Hitler when he started to become aggressive, hope the world doesnt make the same mistake twice.

If war does come with North Korea, its gonna be something we havent seen in a long time. This wont be a 3 day war or 3 month war, this thing will last a long time. North Korea has the 4th largest army in the world. Not to mention some 200+ combat aircraft. They may seem like a 3rd world country, but their military is almost up there with Russia, GB, France, and such. Not necessarly in technology, but in man power and some technology. War with North Korea will be long and bloody!!

BTW · « **Reply #19 on:** July 04, 2006, 10:51:10 PM »

Aint nothing like a psychotic dictator threatening armageddon and having his prize missile go "phhhht".

Is there an international idiot prize?

Neubob · « **Reply #20 on:** July 04, 2006, 10:55:27 PM »

Well, to put a very quick and pragmatic conclusion to all concerns voiced in this thread, I'd like to say the following:

I just saw Superman Returns, and I vote that we get Superman to lift North Korea out of the ground and set it down somewhere in the eastern Mediterranean, just in range of all our current camel-loving playmates. I think this should be well within his abilities, since North Korea's Kryptonite content should be close to 0%.

The Israelis should be able to take care of themselves and, well, as for all the others, let's just say that I'll be perfectly happy with 2.5% of all proceeeds from the ensuing pay-per-view special.

ghi · « **Reply #21 on:** July 05, 2006, 12:33:17 AM »

I heard talking on CNN today in evening news , about "intercepting capabilities " . Are realy any reliable sistems able to intercept!?

Few months ago i've seen a documentary movie , made by Israel ,about Patriot failure in 1st Golf war. They said, reports on 80-90% hit/ intercept was only propaganda and "comercial" for Raytheon , cuz in reality the hit % was 0 (zer0) .Not a single Scud was shot down by Patriot .

The most intresting conlusion was that the Patriot has chances to intercepts the balistic at /low alt reentry in dense atmosfere, where the Scud were desintegrating, and have unpredictable trajectory at high relative speed
I did't belive , and i checked on internet, and are lot of reports about this, but who knows ,maybe were improved in last 15 years

EagleEyes · « **Reply #22 on:** July 05, 2006, 12:41:43 AM »

During the first gulf war the patriot system did not to a very well job, though it did shoot down some missiles, it also shot down a number of coalition aircraft. But in the 2nd gulf war, the patriot system did VERY well.

Wolfala · « **Reply #23 on:** July 05, 2006, 01:15:36 AM »

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Originally posted by ghi
I heard talking on CNN today in evening news , about "intercepting capabilities " . Are realy any reliable sistems able to intercept!?

Few months ago i've seen a documentary movie , made by Israel ,about Patriot failure in 1st Golf war. They said, reports on 80-90% hit/ intercept was only propaganda and "comercial" for Raytheon , cuz in reality the hit % was 0 (zer0) .Not a single Scud was shot down by Patriot .

The most intresting conlusion was that the Patriot has chances to intercepts the balistic at /low alt reentry in dense atmosfere, where the Scud were desintegrating, and have unpredictable trajectory at high relative speed
I did't belive , and i checked on internet, and are lot of reports about this, but who knows ,maybe were improved in last 15 years

PAC-2 didn't shoot down any SCUD's because there weren't any SCUD's in Iraq. There were, however Al Hussein's - which were modified from SCUD's, usually by extending the fuel tanks and adding necessities like a natural countermeasure of the missile breaking up upon re-entry creating lots of false targets.

PAC-2 software setup the intercept based on a SCUD profile - but if you look at how PAC-2 was designed from the outset, it was made for cruise missiles, fast movers, and as a last ditch, ballistic missile defense. But the warhead, isn't designed for the latter.

For example:

Lets say you have a warhead filled with tungsten balls which are focused out front like a shotgun - so you have a pattern much like a cone filled with metal. If you have a miss distance of 5 meters, you'll hit a lot, maybe something critical. But what if you double the miss distance - 15 meters? Maybe 50 meters? You'd be lucky if 2 or 3 of the balls even hit the fuselage.

But the PAC-2 software was designed so even a miss distance of 100 meters would be tallied as a probable kill. Clearly this wouldn't have been a kill, but the system as a whole was more deterrent then anything regarding TBM defense. And when they started falling on Tel Aviv, if they hadn't been rolled in and showed as doing something to protect Israel, it doesn't matter if they were effective or not - only the perception of them working was what mattered at the time.

PAC-3, is a hit to kill system - which doesn't rely on any warhead to destroy the RV. You either hit the damn thing or not - no 2 ways about it.

Wolf

BlueJ1 · « **Reply #24 on:** July 05, 2006, 05:33:26 AM »

N. Korea launched another one this moring.

WhiteHawk · « **Reply #25 on:** July 05, 2006, 07:25:46 AM »

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Originally posted by BlueJ1
N. Korea launched another one this moring.

Now they only got 2 left?? I say its a sabre rattle.

Ghosth · « **Reply #26 on:** July 05, 2006, 07:25:57 AM »

7 in total so far the media is saying.

Remember N Korea has at least 4 nukes ready to rumble soon as they have a delevery system. They've already proved they can eliminate Japan for the foreseable future.

What does that do to our econonmy?

If they get a decent ICBM working, Look out below USA!

Flatten em now while you still can. Drop the big one on their launch site/s.

WhiteHawk · « **Reply #27 on:** July 05, 2006, 07:35:32 AM »

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Originally posted by Ghosth
7 in total so far the media is saying.

Remember N Korea has at least 4 nukes ready to rumble soon as they have a delevery system. They've already proved they can eliminate Japan for the foreseable future.

What does that do to our econonmy?

If they get a decent ICBM working, Look out below USA!

Flatten em now while you still can. Drop the big one on their launch site/s.

Im not an expert, but i think there is a big difference between having nukes and being able to strap them on a ICBM fo delivery. Do we pill out of Iraq and go into N K? Or do we install the draft?

Eagler · « **Reply #28 on:** July 05, 2006, 07:40:35 AM »

gotta laugh at those that got their panties in a wad when the term "axis of evil " was first used ...

looks like he knew what he was talking about all along ...

SirLoin · « **Reply #29 on:** July 05, 2006, 07:48:41 AM »

Jusy heard on news the "Long Range" missile failed.