Author Topic: Eny (Read 717 times)

hitech · « **Reply #15 on:** July 11, 2006, 09:21:29 AM »

It is done the way it is intentionaly.
If I understand what you are asking for. You want it to be that if a team had 1 more player, it would disable some perk planes on the other side.

This is intentialy not ment to happen.

Kev367th · « **Reply #16 on:** July 11, 2006, 09:44:58 AM »

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Originally posted by hitech
It is done the way it is intentionaly.
If I understand what you are asking for. You want it to be that if a team had 1 more player, it would disable some perk planes on the other side.

This is intentialy not ment to happen.

Ah, yup makes sense.

I think what is getting to some people is that with average MA numbers it is taking a difference of 40-60 players to make the ENY actually do anything, i.e. 5 or above.

Maybe make it
if ENY > 0 and ENY < 5 then ENY = ENY + 2.5 ?

Like I said overall it seems to work really well.

SkyRock · « **Reply #17 on:** July 11, 2006, 10:18:21 AM »

there are so many planes to choose from the eny never affects me at all! Even when it gets to 15 or more you still have many great planes to choose from.

Simaril · « **Reply #18 on:** July 11, 2006, 11:07:07 AM »

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Originally posted by hitech
It is done the way it is intentionaly.......

HT, I know that the side balance swings back and forth, and that things often even out over time.

However, it does seem to me that;

--- Knights have been low for a long time now. The swing seems slower this time, and if ....umm....non-ENY intersquad strife a few months ago hadnt caused an exodus from the Rooks, the balance problem wouldl be even worse.

--- There seems to be a meaningful side balance difference for the US vs non-US players, and when total numbers are lower its far easier to get ganged. I tend to cross to the low country in the AM, adn sometimes its not pretty. (There are fewer fights to gravitate toward, so most active players end up near each other -- and that means more enemies nearby to attack and fewer friendlies to rescue in your immediate area.)

Would you consider toughening the ENY for a bit, since natural forces are a bit sluggish? Maybe lower the number needed to trigger, or make a second formula for the lower times?

cav58d · « **Reply #19 on:** July 11, 2006, 11:13:46 AM »

Hitech....So the .01-4.99 ENY is a built in buffer? I dont get it though...If ENY is supposed to represent a side in-balancing as soon as it kicks in, why would their be a 5 point buffer when an in balance is present?

Im not trying to complain or argue...just curious to the system

~~cav~~

hitech · « **Reply #20 on:** July 11, 2006, 11:22:39 AM »

Because the outcome is exatly the same , you can adjust the input params to accout for the the 5, or you could add the code you speek ofeither way the output is exatly the same. I.E. same ratio before the perks are disabled.
If you wish to see the code and why it is the same do a search for it, I posted the code a while back.

AKDogg · « **Reply #21 on:** July 11, 2006, 11:34:04 AM »

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Originally posted by SkyRock
there are so many planes to choose from the eny never affects me at all! Even when it gets to 15 or more you still have many great planes to choose from.

1 of the reasons I fly the f4u-1 which has a eny of 40,lol.

Kev367th · « **Reply #22 on:** July 11, 2006, 11:40:36 AM »

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Originally posted by cav58d
Hitech....So the .01-4.99 ENY is a built in buffer? I dont get it though...If ENY is supposed to represent a side in-balancing as soon as it kicks in, why would their be a 5 point buffer when an in balance is present?

Im not trying to complain or argue...just curious to the system

~~cav~~

What HT is saying I think -

Without the 5 point buffer as soon as one side outnumbered the other by 1 player, ENY would start and perk planes would be unavailable to them.

The 5 point buffer allows the difference to be larger than 1 player before ENY starts and perk planes are unavailable.

Which honestly I had never thought of, but makes total sense.

Hope I got it right.

cav58d · « **Reply #23 on:** July 11, 2006, 08:21:00 PM »

Maybe my head is up my butt but I just dont get it...If ENY is supposed to work as side balancing, why wouldnt it start out limiting an ENY that would actually take away aircraft from the team with uber amount of players immediately? Is 0.1-4.99 just supposed to be there to scare people?

SkyRock · « **Reply #24 on:** July 11, 2006, 08:53:25 PM »

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Originally posted by cav58d
Maybe my head is up my butt but I just dont get it...If ENY is supposed to work as side balancing, why wouldnt it start out limiting an ENY that would actually take away aircraft from the team with uber amount of players immediately? Is 0.1-4.99 just supposed to be there to scare people?

Cav the eny also affects how you earn your points, although it doesn't affect which plane you can fly until 5.0. Lets say you are at 3.0, you would earn less points for same amount/type kills than if it were at 2.0. Now both of those are under the 5.0 margin so it wouldn't affect what plane you could use but there's a difference in the amount of points earned for your kills that sortie. I kill two la7's when im in a spitV with eny of 3.0 and i earn lets say 200 points, if I kill two la7's when im in a spitV and eny is 2.0 I would earn more points. I'm pretty sure thats how that works.

cav58d · « **Reply #25 on:** July 11, 2006, 09:20:40 PM »

Okay I get it, but is that a legitimate side balancing tool? Do you think anyone is gonna switch sides because the perk bonus is .88 instead of 1.0?

i dunno