Originally posted by stomper3:
You U.S Guys ever quit??
I aint Antiamerican, and i suffer as much as anyone in the world from the events of the morning 9-11.
But dont this just go a bit too far, even for US taste?
Schoolgirls writing poems to soldiers in a war, currently about 20k+ bombing of country that is among the 10 poorest in the world? Carpet bombing alleged "terrorist" positions, and projecting a war power, designed to strike on a enemy of similar strenght, onto a country that has no way of defending itself?
Even you US guys has to had been tought in school, that you do not strike a blow on people that is lying? Or is that considered fair in your country?
Or do you fail to see that the strikes (unproportionally) inflicted onto you is a direct result of the mentality you show? Its not a strike upon the free world, nor is it a strike on US democracy, but a strike from below from people that see the US (righteously) as a power that in their world mainly represents war, political instability, geoeconomical unfairness and, as a fact, state-sanctioned terrorism.
Seriously, that page could have been deviced by Mr Goebbels, its not a single step behind what left the guys in the WWII german war propaganda offices...
pwwwwwwwweeeeew
This world... 
/stomp out
First off let me state how incensed I am that you chose this thread to hijack to spew your slander and bias. For that alone you deserve a "piss up a rope" reply.
Now for the nonsense you wrote.
You aren't un American?!?!?! Your first paragraphs were a study in sarcasm and derision about our response to a political entity that declared war and then struck at the defenseless using the helpless as weapons. This same entity has declared ALL U.S. citizens everywhere to be a valid target for military action. This is a declaration of unconditional warfare. What part of this, in your thoughts, is justifiable and a measured aproach to solving a conlict? What part of this fits in the Geneva accords?
Our military response was taken after warnings. It was taken after identifying who we were after. It was taken after we gave notice we wanted those responsible for the atacks. It was taken after those who harbor, aid ad assist the terrorists refused to cooperate. The responses have been cvery measured, specific and done with every possible safeguard to AVOID hitting noncombatants. we did not declare all Afghanis as targets. We did no decide to strike and destroy their country. We did not refuse to CONTINUE the aid to their citizens inspite of their countries leadership declaring a "jihad" against America. America was the country that provided the majority of aid and food to that country BEFORE Sept 11th. Where was YOUR countries contribution in this endeavor?
Oh BTW, you suffered as much as anyone over 9/11/01????? roadkill plain and simple. You havent suffered a damn thing. Your country wasn't attacked. Your citizens were not declared as targets including women, children and aged. Your property wasn't damaged and economy targeted by these cowardly animals.
Yep school girls ARE writing poems to soldiers cunducting raids targeted on MILITARY targets, ie. taliban front line positions. Of course they are above 20k as that is the best and most efficient method of conducting the attack. I suppose since this is syuce a BIG country attacking a small poor country we should do so with our hands tied. Would that make it fair in your mind?? Here's a clue, we do not intend to "make it a fair fight" any more than we did in Desert Storm. A "fair fight" only leads to more casualties as the fighting goes on longer than necessary. It will be a far shorter and less bloody conflict if overwhelming military force is applied to end the damn thing. The faster the taliban and al queda give up the faster the attacks will cease. Get a clue.
Your attempt to justify the actions of these cowards was particulary moving in it's absurdity. The main protagonist, bin ladin has repeatedly stated this was a war against the west. It is a war of Islam against all "outsiders", infidels and nonbelievers. His idea of a government is one that enslaves their women, denies education outside of "religous" training, (his version only as well), denial of the advances of technology and medicine and a closeting of his "people" from the rest of the world. Now exactly in this scenario how is his country expected to flourish economically and politically? How are they going to be a global partner in everyday activities??? They are destroying any chance they have to be a player in the economic activities of the world.
About geopolitical instability. Where do you get this from?? Are you commenting that we have backed various factions in that part of the world that had, shal we say, less than stellar backgrounds?? Exactly how do you figure we should have acted? With whom should we have treated? Does it not occur to you that there may have been NO ONE in the position to govern that was above reproach? Did you think that we might have been restrained in our (government's) choices by what was there? Of course hind sight is always best versus working with incomplete information, particularly for an arm chair general or better yet one who was not even in the area.
In the case of political instability, there was hardly any need for U.S. involvement to cause that. There was plenty to go around before we got involved. I suppose trying to bring various political entities together in a peace conferance was a bad move. Perhaps we shouild just sit back and let all entities fight amoungst themselves and then treat with the winner. Perhaps trying to negotiate treaties between warring nations was causing instability in your mind.
As for the last thing you said about equating the web site to nazi propaganda and goebels work. I think you need to seriously look at nazi propaganda and goebels works. This website has NO government support. It has no funding by the nation. It is a private work in support of our troops. It does not make policy. It does not effect policy. It tries to gain home support for individual soldiers who would be far more alone without it. It is also for U.S. troops and does not ask for YOUR support so feel free to abstain from participating. You will certainly not be missed.
Now the last thing I want to comment on in your post. The "rightous" bit. Mayor Guliani said it best. Let me paraphrase. There is no justification for the murder of innocent civilians as a means of making a political point.
Our response to this cowardly act has been extremely moderated. We have not done wholesale bombing of civilian areas. We have not carpet bombed the infrastructure of Afghanistan. Yes there have bee civilian casualties. This is somewhat inevitable given the taliban using their own citizens as shields for equipment and troops. There have been few instances of bombs going astray and they were acknowledged by the U.S. as non intentional acts. This is particularly clear given the ability of our militaries capability to rain destruction upon them. Had we desired to do so we certainly could have caused much much more damage than we have.
Now as another said so eloquently in another post, go piss off. I have spent far more time on you than your nonsense desreved.
To others, I aplogise for grmatical and spelling errors.
