Author Topic: Flyboys trailer (Read 1436 times)

Solnoir · « **Reply #15 on:** July 23, 2006, 02:54:04 PM »

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were there any african american flyers in ww1?

Yes. Eugene Jacques Bullard was an American that flew for France in WWI.

cav58d · « **Reply #16 on:** July 23, 2006, 03:01:57 PM »

As crasy as he may be in his personal (or not so personal life), you have to admit tom cruise is a great actor...

eilif · « **Reply #17 on:** July 23, 2006, 06:35:21 PM »

Ya i think i read about Jacques, wasnt he a boxer before he enlisted? I think he ended up being rewarded with a job operating elevators in a hotel after the war.

Tom Cruize a good actor? One could argue his craft is good but i never really thought of him as anything more than average, I find him enoying for some reason, seems when ever he walks outside the action genre he falls on his face.

soda72 · « **Reply #18 on:** July 23, 2006, 08:00:20 PM »

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fighting the british who are clearly arrogant

That was the only part true when they said "based on a true story"..

MajWoody · « **Reply #19 on:** July 23, 2006, 11:46:01 PM »

What a screwed up collision model.

cpxxx · « **Reply #20 on:** July 26, 2006, 02:46:40 PM »

Oh dear, I read about the film in Airspace magazine and had high hopes. Then I watched the trailer. Even allowing for a touch of hype in order to entice the uncommitted viewer. I am disappointed. I now suspect a hokey plot as well.

Pearl Harbour - The prequel

Treize69 · « **Reply #21 on:** July 26, 2006, 02:59:59 PM »

Did anyone ever tell Hollywood that the Germans didn't all fly red Dr.Is for 4 years?

Apparently the whole Imperial Luftwaffe was staffed with Richtofen clones.

Midnight · « **Reply #22 on:** July 26, 2006, 03:32:15 PM »

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Fighting a war that wasn’t theirs, these young, naïve adventure-seekers learned the true meaning of love, brotherhood, heroism, courage and tolerance.

With a write-up like that, maybe they should call this movie "Broke Back Flyboys"

Wilbus · « **Reply #23 on:** July 26, 2006, 03:38:50 PM »

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Originally posted by Treize69
Did anyone ever tell Hollywood that the Germans didn't all fly red Dr.Is for 4 years?

Apparently the whole Imperial Luftwaffe was staffed with Richtofen clones.

Was just thinking the same. But hell, as far as Hollywood and the idiots there are concerned historical accuracy isn't something one should care about. After all, they did type it is based on an actual event.

Btw, did anyone notice the Bi and Tri planes sprialing uppwards and rolling better then a Spit 16?

This looks to be a seriously idiotic and bad movie, far worse then Pearl Harbor (Pearl Harbor was atleast entertaining with some cool dogfights albite very inaccurate, but nice action).

And WHY DA F*** did he run down the Zepelin in the end? Thought they were making a realistic movie? Not a clone of "Sky Captain and the World of Tomorrow".

No... this is a movie I will surely go and see but with very very low expectations, that way it can hopefully only get better.

Guyver · « **Reply #24 on:** July 26, 2006, 04:16:38 PM »

might go watch it for a laugh. i want a good WW2 film. like the battle of britain again

Saxman · « **Reply #25 on:** July 26, 2006, 04:36:42 PM »

I THINK the guy running down the Zepplin was one of the top-side gunners. If you watch closely you can see the one plane crash into or near a gun mount. So if there's only one way to go to avoid the flaming plane about to land on your head...

Also, I'd just like to point out that the only German planes we SEE are the red Dr.Is. We don't know the context of the different dogfights shown in the trailer. That could all be from one dogfight in the middle of the movie.

Just as a point of order, I think I remember reading somewhere Richtoffen's squadron DID use predominantly red aircraft as their "base" color, with the individual markings over that.

I just say wait and see. I'm interested, and I WILL see it. Too many people are reading WAY too much (good AND bad) into trailers. They're COMMERCIALS, guys.

And hey now Wilbus, what's wrong with Sky Captain?

Treize69 · « **Reply #26 on:** July 26, 2006, 04:39:04 PM »

didn't say I wouldn't see it, I'm all about unstructured aerial mayhem

Nightshift82 · « **Reply #27 on:** July 26, 2006, 04:47:47 PM »

Looks like an entertaining movie. If I want something historically accurate, I'll watch a documentary.

SKJohn · « **Reply #28 on:** July 26, 2006, 05:51:09 PM »

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Originally posted by Solnoir
Yes. Eugene Jacques Bullard was an American that flew for France in WWI.

Yes, but as this movie is based on the Lafayette Escadrille, the question should be were there any Black flyers in the LE? I don't remember reading about any - seems like it was mostly a lot of rich, ivy league type white boys. (who kicked some Hun butt when they got there - as well as getting theirs kicked too....)

BTW - wasn't there soe movie about Iwo Jima being filmed in Iceland or Greenland or something because they also had black sand beaches? I remember seeing some articles about it, but for the life of me can't remember the name. What ever happened to that one?

Saxman · « **Reply #29 on:** July 26, 2006, 06:48:18 PM »

I looked up Bullard earlier, and he flew with the Lafayette Escadrille. Maybe that's who the black character in the movie is?

I also looked up the LE on Wiki (ok, yeah, I know, not the most accurate source of info). Jean Reno's character for sure IS historical (IMDB lists him as playing the Escadrille's commander, Cpt. Georges Thenault). I haven't tried to match the IMDB character names with any others so don't know how many were real people and how many are fictionalized.

The Iwo Jima film is actually TWO movies, I THINK being done by Clint Eastwood. One is Flags of our Fathers, focusing on the Marines who raised the flag (I don't remember if it's about the REAL group, or the guys who did the second and more famous larger one from the photo). The second is Black Sand, Red Sun or something like that, and focuses on the Japanese and is being filmed IN Japanese with subtitles.

Read a story a while back about how even though there was a language barrier, Eastwood greatly enjoyed working with the Japanese actors, and vice-versa. Both movies are slated for release next year, I think, and AFAIK they were also filmed ON Iwo Jima.