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Offline 101ABN

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« Reply #30 on: July 27, 2006, 05:12:51 AM »
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Life for a life?  Does that mean she would get to be killed 5 times?

Seriously though wow, some people are just........blah


yea, life for a life.. you take one, you lose yours.. especially when children are involved.. killed 5 times.. bad attempt in humor i think.  bottom line, she killed her children and she should pay with her life.. not go to a hospital where there is a chance that she could someday walk out the doors a free person, remote as it may be..  what would you think if she walks a free woman and then does something like this again.... whats gonna happen then, juice her up on meds and set her free again?  

some people are just...... blah... yea, those people that feel sorry for this woman are just.... blah...

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« Reply #31 on: July 27, 2006, 05:28:34 AM »
Something tells me that alot of these types of things are due to career preassure, both parents working, increased use of legal drugs to "cure" problems etc.

In many homes the mother has a career and does all the stuff around the house that moms used to be able to focus 100% on.

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« Reply #32 on: July 27, 2006, 06:40:58 AM »
Solution: Au-Pairs :D
It was very interesting to carry out the flight trials at Rechlin with the Spitfire and the Hurricane. Both types are very simple to fly compared to our aircraft, and childishly easy to take-off and land. (Werner Mölders)

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« Reply #33 on: July 27, 2006, 06:44:02 AM »
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Solution: Au-Pairs :D


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« Reply #34 on: July 27, 2006, 09:01:10 AM »
My stock answer for someone who commits such a horrible crime is usually " 32 cents..the average cost for a bullet."
However seeing the monstrosity of this crime..I vote for skinning her alive with a rusty butter knife, and letting the ants eat her sorry bellybutton while she is staked out in the yard with a pair of magnifying glasses directing the suns rays onto her eyeballs.. But that's just me and my soft side showing through.

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« Reply #35 on: July 27, 2006, 09:06:08 AM »
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bingo! :D


I have 2 :D

(2 kids...2 aupairs)

Planning on more :D
It was very interesting to carry out the flight trials at Rechlin with the Spitfire and the Hurricane. Both types are very simple to fly compared to our aircraft, and childishly easy to take-off and land. (Werner Mölders)

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« Reply #36 on: July 27, 2006, 01:38:51 PM »
Hi Guys,

It seems to me that the verdict in this trial has exposed two serious problems with our views of crime and punishment, and they are both related. Lose one and you eventually lose the other.

The first is our inability to address crime in moral terms. As a society we are increasingly unwilling to speak of actions in terms of right and wrong, good and evil. Instead, we speak of actions using therapeutic language. People cease to be malefactors and their wrongful actions cease to be evil. Instead people are labeled as sick and they are no longer responsible for what they do because they are sick. This has the added effect of making the criminal "a victim" of their own sickness and thus an object of pity. I was astounded, for instance, that people treated Andrea Yates as the victim, and seemed to forget that the actual victims were the 5 children she murdered. In the end they were almost entirely forgotten, pushed under the carpet, even by their father.

The second problem which flows from the first is a loss of the concepts of justice and punishment. If Andrea's problem is not that she is an evildoer who committed five premeditated murders, but a "sick person" who is not responsible for her actions, then she needs therapy to help her "get better" and not punishment. This eliminates one of the central pillars of law - the concept of retribution or consequences. We punish our kids in part to let them know that there will be a reckoning for evil. We should do this, not as revenge but to teach vital concepts like the difference between right and wrong, the importance of justice, and the critical idea of responsibility. Instead we have moved our response to wrongdoing from the arena of objective retributive justice to the arena of compassionate health care.

It's difficult to know how we can deal with this paradigm shift as individuals, but one of the the simple ways we might be able to positively influence people is by speaking of the actions of people like Andrea Yates or even the Jihadis who barbarically tortured those two American servicemen to death as evil rather than "sick". We can also point out the simple fact that her five victims ultimately did not receive justice at the hands of criminal law system, neither did Yates receive the punishment she had earned. What we saw was a fundamental act of injustice that served neither the victims nor society.

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« Reply #37 on: July 27, 2006, 01:58:17 PM »
A sane killer is no more or less dangerous than an insane killer. They're both killers. Put them down. For the sake of the rest of the community, put them down.

It's not about punishment. It's about protecting the community from further harm.
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« Reply #38 on: July 27, 2006, 05:28:00 PM »
A rabid animal is not responsible for it's actions either but it is neither humane nor safe to allow it to continue to act at the risk to others. Put her down and move on. If she is "cured" how are you going to remove from her the overwhelming horror of what she did when "sick"? Some acts require a "mercy killing" IMO.
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