Author Topic: .22 Derringers, Useful or Not? (Read 701 times)

Masherbrum · « **Reply #15 on:** August 07, 2006, 09:25:34 AM »

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Originally posted by Slash27
vs snakes?

xMarine is correct.

lazs2 · « **Reply #16 on:** August 07, 2006, 09:29:21 AM »

my 5 shot .357 mag weighs 12 oz and fits in a front pocket with no problem.

lazs

Chairboy · « **Reply #17 on:** August 07, 2006, 09:30:27 AM »

A .22 is lethal against small to medium sized animals (including humans) when used properly. A bigger caliber is usually more popular because it's more forgiving of mistakes. You don't have to be as good a shot with a .45, just nick 'em and they're down.

A properly trained person with a .22 can use it verrry effectively. Whenever you hear folks describing it as "not even being able to puncture skin", that's code for "the bullets don't go where I want them to".

Masherbrum · « **Reply #18 on:** August 07, 2006, 09:33:32 AM »

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Originally posted by Chairboy
A .22 is lethal against small to medium sized animals (including humans) when used properly. A bigger caliber is usually more popular because it's more forgiving of mistakes. You don't have to be as good a shot with a .45, just nick 'em and they're down.

A properly trained person with a .22 can use it verrry effectively. Whenever you hear folks describing it as "not even being able to puncture skin", that's code for "the bullets don't go where I want them to".

Amen

Slash27 · « **Reply #19 on:** August 07, 2006, 11:05:54 AM »

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Originally posted by Masherbrum
xMarine is correct.

A .22 Derringer would rank far behind rocks and sticks and just a head of hand to hand for a snake.

Masherbrum · « **Reply #20 on:** August 07, 2006, 11:34:17 AM »

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Originally posted by Slash27
A .22 Derringer would rank far behind rocks and sticks and just a head of hand to hand for a snake.

Nah, some are underestimating it.

Midnight · « **Reply #21 on:** August 07, 2006, 12:57:16 PM »

I have a Berreta model 21A in 22LR - 6 rounds + 1

One day, I shot it at a full size silloette target 5 feet away in a couple of quick-draw, 3-round pulls from the hip... I couldn't find the bullet holes.

Concerned I was a totally useless shot in a situation like that, I tried the same with my Colt 1911-A1 .45... out of 6 rounds, 4 were good enough placement for a .45.

So I went to thinking.. where the heck did those .22 rounds go??

The 1911 is too big for carrying in the summer, so I have a S&W CS-45 now.

I guess I just can't hit with those small guns.

john9001 · « **Reply #22 on:** August 07, 2006, 02:09:07 PM »

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Originally posted by Midnight
I have a Berreta model 21A in 22LR - 6 rounds + 1

One day, I shot it at a full size silloette target 5 feet away in a couple of quick-draw, 3-round pulls from the hip... I couldn't find the bullet holes.

Concerned I was a totally useless shot in a situation like that, I tried the same with my Colt 1911-A1 .45... out of 6 rounds, 4 were good enough placement for a .45.

So I went to thinking.. where the heck did those .22 rounds go??

The 1911 is too big for carrying in the summer, so I have a S&W CS-45 now.

I guess I just can't hit with those small guns.

i think the trick with guns is like, you know , you have to aim them.

Shuckins · « **Reply #23 on:** August 07, 2006, 02:14:25 PM »

My idea of a proper derringer is this:

Halo · « **Reply #24 on:** August 07, 2006, 03:56:31 PM »

My .22 NAA derringer that started this thread spent most its time in a drawer. Interesting novelty but to me nothing I ever wanted to shoot anymore once I realized its limitations and mine.

Eventually passed it on to son; his wife likes to shoot it but I think she'll eventually tire of it as I did.

In another thread I describe one of my best trades as being a Colt
Agent lightweight .38 5-shot revolver for a Ruger Security-Six .357/.38 revolver.

Again it was a tradeoff of light and comfortable to carry, especially concealed, versus something heavier, more powerful, more accurate, and something I really enjoy shooting. Live and learn.

Midnight · « **Reply #25 on:** August 07, 2006, 06:37:06 PM »

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Originally posted by john9001
i think the trick with guns is like, you know , you have to aim them.

Normally, I do aim and I hit what I aim at (2" group at 25 yards with .45ACP stock 1911-A1 - 3-dot factory sights). My example was to give me an idea of how well I would do if I were in a situation that would inhibit taking proper aim.

Maverick · « **Reply #26 on:** August 07, 2006, 06:41:26 PM »

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Originally posted by Midnight
Normally, I do aim and I hit what I aim at (2" group at 25 yards with .45ACP stock 1911-A1 - 3-dot factory sights). My example was to give me an idea of how well I would do if I were in a situation that would inhibit taking proper aim.

Don't they have "combat" matches (or whatever name they are using now) in youre area? A couple running stages or stages where you run about 100 yards then engage targets would give you the barest inkling of a real situation.

lazs2 · « **Reply #27 on:** August 08, 2006, 08:37:32 AM »

If it is far enough away that I can't hit it with my J frame 12 oz .357 mag Smith and Wesson then it is far enough away that I don't need to shoot at it.

It is loaded with 5 125 grain federal jacketed hollow points and the noise and muzzle flash are deafening and blinding. I can't imagine someone standing their ground after hearing and seeing it.

It will also shoot man sized targets out to 100 yards with no problem if that it what you want to do. Keeping five shots on the paper at 25 yards is not difficult but it will hurt.

no gun I have ever fired has as much recoil as this one. They have a 20 oz version of this gun in 44 mag that I was considering and it might have more.

lazs