Happy birthday, Fidel!

[Connection]

The drink is called Cuba Libre, and the correct soda is coke not pepsi. I dont care what it says on the back of that bottle, thats the way we drink it here in the Caribbean

[SFCHONDO]

Pfft Fidel, An even more important person was born on the 13th of Aug.....










ME

[AquaShrimp]

I work with a guy who escaped from Cuba.  He dislikes Fidel, but still respects him.

The guy I work with was able to go to college for free in Cuba.  Its free if you go right out of high school.  He got his degree in accounting.  He didn't have it bad in cuba, he was set to inherit an orange plantation, but he escaped to America so his kids could have a better life.  

However he doesn't seem real happy here.

[Nilsen]

Originally posted by SFCHONDO
Pfft Fidel, An even more important person was born on the 13th of Aug.....










ME

happy birthday then!

[rpm]

I hope he savored it like it was his last.

[Jackal1]

Originally posted by Boroda

 you still have to admit that he's a great man
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Yea and hemmorrhoids are also great.

[Mini D]

If it had not been for the support of larger failing nations that believed supporting cuba meant giving the U.S. the finger, Cuba would have starved to death decades ago. The fact that litterally millions of people in Miami would have cheered that occurance is sad.

Fidel will not get any respect or a salute from me. 50 years of eliminating anyone that might "usurp" power does not make it any less impacting. He serves as a prime example that Communism is just a means establishing a new emporer and trying to appease everyone else by ensuring very few others are truly wealthy or empowered.

[Masherbrum]

"Cuba, where you can't drive the 1950 Mercury you are unable to get parts for."

[lazs2]

I imagine that you would like communism back boroda... it was not a bad thing for the privilidged and the sons of them.  Kinda rough on everyone else tho.

castro is a tad too ruthless for me to admire... he did have a softer side tho than most of the other ruthless dictators he has outlived like the african ones who would eat the liver out of you while your heart was still beating..

Still... he is not big on free speech or human rights or... even letting people com and go as they please.

I don't think castros cuba would be a place any but a select few would like to party at.

When he dies... things will most likely get better for cubans.

That is his real legacy... he keep his people in chains and in poverty with an iron fist for all this time.   He managed to make it so that he could do this while being only 90 miles from the richest country in the world.

If the US lives in the past... then castro is steeped in it... he still sees mobsters running casinos and... he still sees communism as a viable religion.

lazs

[Nilsen]

Originally posted by lazs2

I don't think castros cuba would be a place any but a select few would like to party at.

They have many tourists and I bet they like to party!. Id love to go there and see the place.

[Gunthr]

You have a wrong definition of "communism".

What is failed is a "Soviet Socialism".

And it probably couldn't fail if our leaders were like Fidel, not like that bald stupid with a spot on the head.

Funny, but I turn left-wing, reading you guys on this board. Reading and posting here definetly makes me - Baroda

Do you mean that glastnos dude?  Gorby?  I never completely trusted him because he was born with that map of Poland on his head...  

But I maintain that if Gorbachov were running Cuba, I'd be sitting in a cabana right now, listening to salsa, drinking rum and smoking a big fat cigar with a caramel colored chica on my lap.

[101ABN]

i would like to go to cuba.... sand, sunshine, sand, rum... and oh yea, the women...  just have to wait for ole uncle fidel to kick the bucket and a new government to take control before i can go... security clearance and hanging out in a commie country dont mix..

[Masherbrum]

I have an issue with the leader and not the people.

[soda72]

Originally posted by lazs2

When he dies... things will most likely get better for cubans.

I don't think that will be the case with this 20th Century Monarch passing the reins of power to his brother.   I doubt his brother is going to do anything different and there's even a chance he may make things worse.

[ghi]

Originally posted by Boroda
" - you still have to admit that he's a great man, the last man standing, an icon for the nations and people who believe in a different way.

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  gime a break!
   I was born and lived in Transilvania/ Romania under Ceausescu,  tired of security, tired of waking up at 4Am to wait in line long hours for milk and  bread,
  and Castro is the same chit,was Ceausescu's friend, strarving his nation for stupid utopic ideas

   I used to work for a Princess Cruises, for 6 years, been in most of the islands in Caribean Sea ,people live decent life from turism incomes in all those islands, but in Cuba , the largest most beatiful island , peoples starve, work for less than 50$/ month
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  yes i have to admit he is a great man!