Penn & Teller: War on Drugs

[Edbert1]

Originally posted by lazs2
they just won't be fueling billions of dollars a year in crime and making this more and more into a police state every day.
 

True, but they also wont be fueling the billions of dollars needed by the alphabet-soup-beaurocracies, or fueling the fear needed for politicians to get elected either. You have to take the bad with the good...LOL.

[68Hawk]

Originally posted by lazs2

The true addicts will never be worth a damn but... if the drugs are legal and cheap then these guys won't be fueling the gangs and stealing your stereo while doing $2000 worth of damage to your car.

They will still exist in the same numbers and be just as worthless..  they just won't be fueling billions of dollars a year in crime and making this more and more into a police state every day.

lazs

Again completely agreed.

There is a difference however with someone who smokes  weed and drinks vs. someone who does heroin.  If you drink on the job, its a recipe for disaster, same with weed smokers, but if they do it on their own time there's no difference than someone who likes to get drunk everyonce in a while on a friday night.  

Use is not abuse.  Abuse is something different.

[lazs2]

vudak... I worked construction in the 70's and 80's when guys were shooting up on the job and there were no drug tests at all.  The vast majority of the people I worked around were loaded on something including myself...

Nowdays... with drug testing.... my chance of being in a ditch with a pothead running the backhoe above me is limitied (well... very unlikely because of my position too but... my men are unlikely to be in that position).

I have no problem with employers asking for drug testing and firing people with drugs in their system... I also have no problem with employers allowing drugs in the workplace so long as the policies are clear to every employee.

We have what?  50,000 fbi and batf and another 10,000 or so dea agents running around because of banned stuff like drugs and guns?   What do they accomplish?

Seems that we should see huge busts every day but... once a year or so... the batf will get on the news or front page all posing in their ninja outfits in front of a raided "compound" of some middleaged gun collector and the pic will show a display of a half dozen $100 relic surplus rifles that are upwards to 100 years old...

Or... worse yet... they will get in the news from killing some poor schmuck in a raid.

lazs