This just in - pounding Iraq

[leonid]

We don't mind cabby, Kieren.  It's a well known fact that he's a political pyromaniac  

[Frosty1]

Iraq gets bombed weekly. It's just never on the news because its died out and no one really cares.

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[TheWobble]

Countries do what they do for the reasons they do them for, not always right, and never right in the eyes of everyone, its just business in a way, that doesnt make it "right" per say but its just the way it is.  Ya cant be nice to everyone all the time because because of those who percieve niceness for weakness, besides between the US and Briton and then saddam, its not a toss up as to who is the "bad guy" here.

[StSanta]

Worth noting is that the no fly zones are an American/Brit creation primarily and not a UN resolution. The Iraqis can quite rightly make an argument that it's in effect an illegal operation. I wouldn't say the argument holds water fully, but they have a (minor) point.

Despite what the US administration described it as; a routine strike, military analysts in both the US and in Europe say it wasn't. In such a limited zone, it is unlikely that there were 5 radar/c&c sites for one, according to them.

The timing they say is not incidental either; it seems Bush wants to send a strong message that hthe US is jovial to its friends (aka he is in Mexico when it happens, having nice talks) and harsh on its enemies (i.e the Iraqi strike).

I don't disagree with his decision to authorize the strike.

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Baron Claus "StSanta" Von Ribbentroppen
9./JG 54 "Grünherz"
"If you're not living on the edge, you're taking up space"

[TheWobble]

 

The Iraqis can quite rightly make an argument that it's in effect an illegal operation

<<Airstrike.exe caused an invalid page fault in module kernel32.dll>>

thats what they get for using 98 on their fighters.


       

[StSanta]

LOL wobble!

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Baron Claus "StSanta" Von Ribbentroppen
9./JG 54 "Grünherz"
"If you're not living on the edge, you're taking up space"

[TheWobble]

 

[Boroda]

Cabby... I wish Iraqi SAM crews to shoot down as much of that "peacekeepers" as possible.

Heh. You want them to sit down and wait until some psycho in DC will toss the dice and decide that it's their turn to die? Unfortunately that Arabs are very poor soldiers, without Soviet instructors they are even worse.

Just read an article about what happened in Lybia in 1986... The guy who wrote it was an istructor there.

If you feel offended by this letter - please remember that whenever USAF saw action it never ever cared about civilians. Korea, Vietnam, Iraq, Yugoslavia... After reading Jedi's posts I have a strong feeling that US pilots are conditioned to believe in something like "Amerika uber alles" and have no doubt that anyone living outside US is a third-rate bastard who must thank them for "bombing to stone age" and the best thing they can do for him is to end his bitter life as soon as possible. And if that little poor creatures in their bombsights and on targeting radars try to protect themself and shoot down some super-puper American Servicemen they get offended: Who gave that untermenschen the right to shoot at us or even illuminate our planes with targeting stations!?

Well, they call it "humanism".

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[Gadfly]

Yeah, Ol' Saddam really cares about people and law doesnt he Boroda.  Kind of like Russia.

[TheWobble]

 

Cabby... I wish Iraqi SAM crews to shoot down as much of that "peacekeepers" as possible.

diddly You amazinhunk.

[Cabby]

Boroda:

Well, the Iraqi's are welcome to TRY and shoot-down American aircrews.  And they are welcome to the sand-turned-to-melted-glass the survivors will find their sorry-ass countryside turned into.

Saddam Hussein isn't even worthy of discussion.  Users of chemical warfare, and other atrocities, deserve no respect, no quarter, and no peace.

And if one attacks American(or British)military personnel, be prepared to have your bellybutton whupped.  Bigtime.  

No tears for Saddam the Megalomaniacal Moron here.  Or for any of his stooges/flunkies that get in the way of well-aimed HAARMS.

War is Hell.  Especially for the losers.

You know, America financed your war with the Germans, rebuilt Germany(while your rather brutal and thuggish Soviet Empire SUBJUGATED half of Germany for 40 years) and Japan, and assisted rebuilding most of Europe after WWII.  To suggest that Americans are brutal occupiers, hegemonists, and "uber alles" is an insult.  An ignorant one to be sure, but still an insult.

Sometimes i think the world WOULD have been better-off if the USA DID occupy and eliminate the local populations of Europe and replace them with Americans after WWII.

But nah, my better American nature takes hold, and i quit thinking like the jealous, decadent, backward denizens of the OLD WORLD.

Cabby



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[Fury]

Wobble that almost became my new fav sig line but the censors wouldn't allow it  

Fury

[-towd_]

this whole situation is just screwed . as a citizen i dont like strikes whithout a damb good reason.

anyone mind tellin me what it was?

[Tac]

"I suppose decadent, ignorant, cowardly populations do. Most don't starve for long. Read-up on some world history."

I suggest you take a longer look at your own history books. All the dictators/tyrants/kings/whatever that kept their population starved, submitted, in pain/whatever also kept a very strong military...at home. When that military was sent away or weakened, thats when the poor ignorant bastards rebelled..because thats when they can. And in most cases those rebellions failed. You only read of the succesful ones in the books.. history is written by the good guys right?

Saddam will stay in power as long as his army is with him. Why do you think he has an entire division as his own personal guard?

[Tac]

Towd:

Iraq had built radar stations that would target UN planes patrolling the no fly zone. Once targeted they would be quite sure to have a SAM sent their way.

That is why they were destroyed. Comm centers in Baghdad were also knocked out because they coordinated the radars and the missile sites.

I think the UN should just blast all of Saddam's palaces to the ground, that might affect him in a way. Perhaps not. *shrug*