pzvg - this is the O-club is it not? I was under the impression it was where things not pertaining to AH or flight sims are discussed.
If this thread is irrelevant to flight sims then so are about 99.99% of topics in this forum. So why are you here?
No one is forcing you to read this thread or post in it. If you don't want to, then don't. Simple as that.
To everyone else, there's some good points there. I'm at work now (and shouldn't be online right now

), so I'll get back to you tonight hopefully.
Dingy - something stuck in my mind the other night. A former RAF Tornado pilot who was shot down in 1990 was being interviewed (I'll dig out some quotes tonight) - he was commenting on the exasperation of RAF crews, who were flying over Northern Iraq to stop air raids on the Kurds, but were seeing Turkish planes taking off and bombing those same people (civilians not PKK guerrilas).
See ya later.